Very good. As a german, I'd welcome this.
However, expect heavy pushback from the German automotive industry. They are for Germany what the NRA and weapons manufacturer lobby is to the US.
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If a german pensioneer can't drive a german car with more than 250 kph on the german Autobahn from north to south, west to east: how can we have EINIGKEIT UND RECHT UND FREIHEIT?
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Does the German automotive industry also exercise immense power and influence in both politics and society?
Germany is unbelievably car-centric for a developed country. It's also nicely planned, so most of the time you can survive pretty well without a car, but car is still the king here
That's a solid "Yes, definitely!"
Germany has more cars per capita than the US and Germany is the only country without a speedlimit on motorways. So yes, they definitely do
Not true. Numbers from 2020: USA 919 Germany 628
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita?wprov=sfti1
Looks like you're right, I heard this fact in a YouTube video or something and didn't check against. I'm sorry, I don't want to spread misinformation.
Medical tests?? bleh. Driving is driving, health is health. All drivers should have a to retake basic driving tests at an increasing rate until by the age of 70 where it maxes out at once per 5 years or something.
I agree, especially since medical tests wonβt show the driver slowing down as they enter a roundabout or taking a full minute to shift lanes or positioning themselves so they canβt even look in the rearview mirror.
A ton of driving is about behaviors and tendencies. A driver that has no awareness of other drivers is a dangerous driver, regardless of how good their heart, eyes, or reaction time. Dementia obviously affects this, but you can get a clean bill of health from your doctor and then drive off home in the left lane at 5 below the speed limit because other people are just going too damn fast.
Yep, well said :)
This would be great. We should also require all drivers to pass small exams every ~10 years in order to assert that they are up to date with new laws and new types of infrastructure.
If they would do that we would finally get a strong lobby for decent public transport!
Good Idea. It's widely accepted that cognitive capabilities can decline rapidly with old age. It simply makes no sense that a person that needs 8 tries and 10 minutes to change the station on their TV is still allowed to operate a two ton death machine without any checks in place.
The important part here is to make it so that it ONLY "catches" declined driving capabilities and is not also biased in terms of social and financial status or maybe if you're an immigrant or something.
There's a pretty serious concern here about the mobility and independence of the elderly... but that can't be put over and above public safety. I see either very anxious and hesitant, or completely off with the fairies and uncaring elderly drivers on a frequent basis.
They wouldn't get anywhere near a licence if they had to demonstrate their competence even once more, let alone semi-regularly.
Mobility for the eldery IS important but IMHO there should be affordable, easy accessible options without the use of a personal vehicle. Otherwise it get's harder and harder for the eldery to participate in social activities which are beneficiary to mental health and prevent early symptoms of Alzheimers disease.
Should be every 2 years - for everyone with a license.
It shouldn't. That's a monumental administrative task. My gov can barley keep up with issuing passports. Imagine having to reissue drivers licenses with a check up every 2 years for everyone...
That seems beyond excessive.
That seems expensive to enforce. It would make more sense for people to be tested every 10 years till age 68, every 5 years till age 78, then every two years after that.
Good.
Normalize checking peoples cognitive abilities.
Provided age is not the trigger given that no proof has been provided supporting the age limit.
Well random age limits are all over. For Voting, Working, optainig the driver license, drinking, being out late, You name it.
I can sort of understand the downvotes, but can anyone link a study maybe?
I wish we could test for cognitive ability for voting access over 70.
The german satire party DIE PARTEI wanted to implement a highest voting age. If you can't vote the first 18 years of your life, you shouldn't be able to vote the final 18 years.
I seriously hoped it would have been implemented The older folks seem to ruin germany more the older they get
I've been saying the same thing for years. We should revoke voting status 18y from whatever the national average lifespan. That'll never happen, though.
How to determine when the last 18 start, though?
Well insurance companies have all the models necessary for that. It's actually called actuary and it's a field of mathematics.
Or, average national lifespan