Biden again calls Xi a ‘dictator’ after critical summit 🤡 : us

[–] [email protected] 69 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

He’s a dictator in the sense that he’s a guy who runs a country that is a communist country that is based on a form of government totally different from ours

yeonmi-park In the authoritarian U.S. regime, they change the meaning of words like “dictator” to mean democratically elected president.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

Dictatorship is when you don’t copy our great form of government. Because it’s totally democratic when the most powerful man in the world is elected by un-proportional electors that we’re not themselves elected.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

he’s a guy who runs a country that is a communist country that is based on a form of government totally different from ours

Now can the ultras shut up once and for all now that they get the confirmation about China being communist from their most trusted source?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

😁

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

As we all know, different things are bad. This logic brought it you by infants and old people.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess he didn't get what he wanted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Very plausible

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

They don't even know the organizational structure of their biggest competitors.America is doomed

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lol biden is such a clown, must fucking suck for Xi having to meet these 80yo children.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had this whole witty comment about Dictators being people who don't have to listen to the majority of their voters, but I don't believe Joe Biden is a dictator. I just think the entire system is rotten.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be more precise, US has a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie while China has a dictatorship of the proletariat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Idk if I'd call socialism with chinese characteristics a dictatorship of the proletariat in the hermenudical marxist sense, buts its a fuckin start. It's sure as shit 10x better than what we get in the US.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Oh it's not perfect by any means, but definitely a huge improvement on the horrors of western "democracies".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And it's that way because of the US. Just look at what happened to the USSR and other socialist nations, they got absolutely slammed.

At least this way they get to build up power while the cracker industrial complex continues to crumble under its own abuse and neglect.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

"Authoritarianism is when the government is different and the more differenter it is the more authoritarian it is and if its really different, then its totalitarian!"

-Joedolf Bidler the Genocider

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

P o l i t e

F a s c i s t

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Throwing that publicly right after a meeting wasn't even especially polite. Going by the normal diplomacy standard it was actually very rude.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

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[+] [email protected] -43 points 9 months ago (3 children)

A dictator is a political leader who possesses absolute power. A dictatorship is a state ruled by one dictator or by a small clique.

By that definition you could call the US, or various other countries, dictatorships. However I don't see how Xi Jinping could not be objectively labelled a dictator.

Direct democracy FTW. Let people vote on any- and every-thing, for better or worse. People will learn and adapt, and if they get a chance to review policy this will be significant. Meanwhile, you cannot sustain any disinformation campaign indefinitely, even if they might be successful for the occassional vote.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago

there is no such thing as a one-person dictatorship at a large scale; aside from minuscule "countries" like Vatican City, it's practically impossible for a country to be controlled by a single person, and to imply that China could be ruled by a dictator is laughable

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you do understand they vote and elect people in China right

[+] [email protected] -40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes sure, but as I stated it's possible to successfully run a disinformation campaign to cover an occassional vote. It's also hard to run an opposition against an incumbent candidate when they will literally have you removed from congress on a whim.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Do you have any evidence of disinformation campaigns being directed by Xi towards political opponents internally within China or are you talking out of your ass

[+] [email protected] -27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Where did I say that there were disinformation campaigns directed against Xi?

I've just said it's possible to rig elections every so often. Surely that isn't an objectionable idea to you?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Your motte & bailey malarkey ain’t gonna fly here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Didnt know that had a name.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You yourself say that you cannot sustain any disinformation campaign indefinitely, even if they might be successful for the occassional vote. So, using your own logic these hypothetical disinformation campaigns you're doing hand wringing over don't actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

[+] [email protected] -19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You are making a disingenuous argument that ignores the entire point I made.

Disinformation campaigns do matter if you're only having occasional votes - you can slip through a bad decision every once in a while. If you vote on everything, then it wouldn't matter, because you'll have a vote in review where the flawed vote would be corrected.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only one making disingenuous arguments here is you bud. Your whole argument is based on a completely unfounded supposition that the current system does not end up fairly representing the will of the public. There is no evidence to suggest anything of the sort that I'm aware of.

Meanwhile, the whole idea of direct democracy that you're peddling here doesn't scale beyond small communities. Failing to understand why delegation of concerns is a necessary aspect of any complex organization exposes infantile understanding of the subject you're attempting to debate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He's Just Asking Questions though! You mean commies won't let him come into your space and JAQ off in peace!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Perhaps they don't understand the concept of questions recieving answers that don't take false assumptions seriously.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well you called Xi a dictator, which is a pretty big claim.

If you can evidence that it would be great, from my understanding China is a democratic centralist country that has popular support from the billion+ people living there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

The sheer amount of voting that takes place in China would make you shit your pants.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If I'm not mistaken, the US does not have direct democracy for presidential elections (https://www.usa.gov/electoral-college) nor the lawmaking process (https://www.usa.gov/how-laws-are-made). Unless you're referring other forms of direct democracy in the US (https://ballotpedia.org/Forms_of_direct_democracy_in_the_American_states) or elsewhere in the world like Russian presidential elections.

As for how China's president is elected, these two videos basically sum it up:

How deputies are elected to people's congresses https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-02-24/How-deputies-are-elected-to-China-s-people-s-congresses-1hGaCLluMtW/index.html
How are Chinese leaders elected? https://news.cgtn.com/news/3267444d7a6b7a6333566d54/index.html

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