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[–] [email protected] 464 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Morning people, in my experience at least, firmly believe that night people are just morning people with insufficient self-discipline.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, 100%. I swear most folks I know believe being a night owl is simply a lack of self control, or they have a screw loose

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

sure it's a lack of self control, if i had better self control i could force myself to go to bed at 21:00 and lie there for 2 hours until i fall asleep out of tortured boredom, and then i could force myself out of bed at 07:00 despite my limbs feeling like lead and every movement bringing me abject misery and pain!

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's wild is that you'll see them get a night job, or have to stay up late on vacation a few times and they'll be 100/10 miserable af. Never adapt to it, and still keep believing iTs aLl SeLf DiScIpLInE

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well what it 'proves' to them is that mankind is supposed to follow the exact same routine that works for them. My Dad was forever saying "Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise." Died when he was 45.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To quote Yakko Warner:

Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy, but socially dead

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's actually a genetic bias on it. It can be overridden, but you'll always feel a bit burnt out from it. It also changes with age (teenagers are the latest, getting earlier as you age.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a night person who has to wake up at 6am, I can absolutely confirm. I'm always tired.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm the same way. If I fall asleep at 10pm but wake up at 6am I'm absolutely miserable for the first hour, but if I go to sleep at 2am and wake up at 10am I'm refreshed and in a good mood most of the time. I'm 30 and it hasn't gotten any better with age yet.

Fuck mornings I hate them so much.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to be a night owl, then I had a job that required me to get up at 5:30. It sucked for 2 weeks and now I'm a morning person.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had the opposite experience a few years ago, I am very much a night owl.

I did a job that required me in the office for 7am for a few months, I was noticeably less effective for the whole duration, I was just slower at everything and was basically constantly tired. Switched back to getting in for 9-10am and the difference was night and day, as basically I was back to my old levels of effectiveness after a day or two.

I just think I'm one of these people that cannot adapt, or at least if I do, it comes with a cost.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

I'm a night owl and even early morning acclimatization hasn't helped.

There were a few months that I had to do 12.5 hour shift work where I had to be at work at 5:30 AM and I was miserable the entire time. It's hard to adjust when your natural cycle is like 10 am to 2 am.

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[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Then there's my fucking cunt of a housemate who lkves on the floor above me that's the loudest mother fucker on the face of the earth and fucking stomps around until 1am every night and opens and slams close every fucking draw and door in his room, and re arrnafes his furniture every night, then gets up at 6.30 in the morning so he can stomp around some more, hack up his lungs as loudly as humanly possible and slam every door in the fucking house before leaving for work exactly when my alarm goes off, specifically so I can't have a single good night sleep ever.

Sorry I may have some pent up anger.

[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry I may have some pent up anger.

Nothing a good night of sleep can't solve!

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You must live below the people in the apartment next to me.

Why are people like this. Really. I want a serious, well thought out answer from people who act like this. I would be fucking appalled if I found out people had been losing sleep because of me. Or they weren't able to concentrate when working from home, or had to get a bluetooth converter for their tv to connect headphones because otherwise they can't even enjoy tv with all the stomping, banging, furniture moving, and door slamming. I would feel so fucking guilty and especially embarrassed for coming off as such an entitled piece of shit. I literally cannot comprehend that there are people who know they're disturbing others, in their own homes, day and night, and they either don't give a shit, or they get mad at the person they're torturing for asking them nicely to keep it down. Or both. And yes I have brought it up with my landlord countless times. They could give a fuck. The next step is to contact the city and have them come in with a decibel meter or something. In my state, landlords must ensure "peaceful enjoyment" for tenants. But I'd have to prove it's over a certain level, then deal with filing a complaint and/or civil court or whatever, so nothing ever changes.

This is one situation where I think an eye for an eye is perfectly reasonable, because after living through over a year of daily constant noise, I think my next door neighbors aren't deserving of a single moment of peace from now on.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the two of you need to sit down for a little talk 😂

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In my experience people who are this utterly devoid of consideration are not only unable to change, they will get angry at you for suggesting they've done something wrong.

I wish OP the best of luck.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So fucking much this. They have no respect for the owls

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

And they are so f*cking proud of being up early as if a short sleep is something worth to accomplish

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I wake the morning people up I'd have to spend time with them, which kind of defeats the purpose of being a night person.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Hah, yeah I learned I wasn't so much a night person as much as someone who indulges in revenge sleep procrastinating and doesn't get enough alone time in the day.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago

"Sure is dark in this room. Better turn on every light in the county."

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I shined a torch in my wife's sleeping face this morning at 5am.

I didn't mean to, I was looking for my ear tunnel, it had fallen out in the night and I didn't want to go a day at work with a cats arsehole for an ear lobe.

I looked for my spare ones first, I really didn't want to be that guy, I'm a night person.

Anyway I sent her this and she had to remind me I was a bastard.

She's right.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

my ear tunnel, it had fallen out in the night and I didn't want to go a day at work with a cats arsehole for an ear lobe.

I think I might be having a stroke, I don't understand what's going on here at all.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume it's related to having ear gauges? Just very hopeful guess though.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I tried my whole life to get up early, one day I just gave up. Started my own company, bought a house - now I live and work like nature made me. No, I wear clothes, it's just the sleep. Btw it's interesting when you're hiring how many people are like that and love the hours. I can recommend that to every night person.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worked in the nightshitf for almost 2 years and can confirm this is so true.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

This was me when my ex was asleep on the left, her when I was asleep on the right.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How else am I supposed to signal to the night owls that it's time to hit the bed before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

I wonder why

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

See our house is totally opposite, I get up early, take myself downstairs feed the pets and have a nice quiet morning. My wife will arrive at bed at 1am, throw the bedroom light on, rattle all the drawers for PJ's, loudly demand I wake up so I can watch whatever Facebook video she's been watching and announce we should have a serious conversation about where we should book for holidays this year.

When I complain, it's 1am and I gotta get up at 6:30 suddenly I'm the reason we never talk anymore...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Literlly my roomate. He sometimes even goes through the house with a horn.

Those are the moments I wish for not living with him together.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's a sleep disorder, diurnal, common for people with adhd. Their brains don't wake up, start functioning til 6pm, wide awake all night.

I'm so careful, courteous at night, super quiet, walking softly... then 6am, morning people wake, stomping, slamming, music blasting. So not fair.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It's not a disorder, humans are meant to have conflicting sleep schedules. Someone's got to stay up all night and tend to the fire / keep a lookout.

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