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    [–] [email protected] 122 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    At least when I open up Mac OS, it doesn’t show me a pop up ad telling me how XBOX CONTROLLERS COME IN SO MANY COLORS NOW click here to buy.

    I’ve gotten that pop up the last 3 times I’ve booted up my windows machine.

    Windows is great for gaming. But it’s the only thing I turn that machine on for.

    [–] [email protected] 90 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    Gaming on Linux is pretty legit now. I don't even boot into windows very often. In recent memory, only one AAA game didn't work out of the box for me that required booting into windows.

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    No joke, most of my games work better on Linux because of proton than my Windows box. Such a nice experience.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

    I have never ever seen this on my windows install.

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    [–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I much prefer Windows to MacOS. The fact it is missing decent tiling is a nonstarter. It's too inflexible for my workflow.

    And sure, Windows can be maddeningly inconsistent, but what really destroys the experience is the constant ensh*ttification. I know a lot of people here hate everything about Windows, but for me, it only sucks because Microsoft designs it to suck.

    Not only are there ads and (some) first party lockin, I cannot trust they will continue offering updates, paywall feaures, restrict more functionality, or insert stuff like AI to mess up my workflow.

    I used to think reliability was just about stability and bugginess, but now I think it is about trust as well.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    I use Amethyst on Mac for tiling: https://ianyh.com/amethyst/.

    Not sure if that's what you meant though.

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    [–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (11 children)
    [–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    From the standpoint of linux that is true.

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    [–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Lol, is this meme for real? Most mac users would never touch Linux. Like, yes, they are both based on Unix... But come on now, this is just intellectually dishonest.

    Most Mac users, in my experience, have no idea how to operate anything without an apple logo on it.

    [–] treadful 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Linux users are in the (well constructed) tent camp in the local park that Mac users ride their electric scooters past while desperately trying to avoid eye contact.

    [–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Linux users are the homeowners who build and fix everything they can, but look down on people that don't find craftsmanship fun, claiming that they're saving money by doing the work themselves. Good on you for having that hobby, but if you don't enjoy it, spending time to learn those skills costs time that could be spent earning more money than you'd save. Paying an expert to do things you don't enjoy is usually the cheaper option. They can be found almost anywhere, similar to how Linux users use Apple or windows products from time to time.

    Mac users are suburb dwellers who view their way of life as what everyone should aspire to, ignorant to the downsides of sprawl and reliance on cars to go anywhere. Commute times suck, while walkable neighborhoods with public transit make most people healthier and happier. There's an important classist component, often bundled with racism, that underscores this ideal.

    Windows users are people that live in urban areas for work, trying to find reasonable rent or home prices as unchecked capitalism makes everything worse, but unaware why things suck. They get annoyed when people share their passion for handiwork, and dislike suburban folks for thinking they're superior rather than the downsides to suburban life. However, because most people live this way, and live this way for work, they usually don't have strong identities like suburbanites or handy homeowners.

    Homeless people are those who can't afford computers, overlapping with actual homeless people, and rural people are those that don't use computers more than they need to, socializing face to face and literally touching grass.

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    [–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    MacOS is still Unix under the hood, and has been since they adapted NeXTSTEP.

    Maybe it's just because I'm fundamentally more of a console user than a windowing-system user, but to me a Unix-based OS is always going to be a winner compared to Windows.

    But, if you want to laugh at OSes, laugh at classic MacOS, where everything would grind to a halt if you clicked and held the mouse button.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Maybe it’s just because I’m fundamentally more of a console user than a windowing-system user, but to me a Unix-based OS is always going to be a winner compared to Windows.

    I absolutely agree

    But, if you want to laugh at OSes, laugh at classic MacOS

    Or some weird old Unixes like AIX

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    [–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    As both a MacOS and Linux user I agree with myself on the regular that Windows is shit.

    I also wash my hands on the regular.

    Great meme, very accurate.

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    [–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (17 children)

    All three are shit. You can't change my mind.

    [–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    They all suck in their own unique way! For me I can tolerate the way Linux sucks, and for others it's something else. But I think we can all agree that bitching about operating systems is great catharsis.

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Mac won't let me do what I want, and offers no explanation and the forums are filled with people telling me why what I want is wrong.

    Windows has a way to do it, but it's hidden behind 17 menus from 8 eras if UI design, and it just won't shut the fuck up and listen to me. It has needless animations for everything, and trys so hard to be friendly that it's just infuriating.

    Linux let's me do the thing. It gives no directions on how to do the thing, and if I do it wrong, it doesn't even tell me that things are fucked until six months later when I discover I accidentally told it to write the kernel logs to the bootloader and everything is on fire.

    I prefer punching myself in the gonads to being called stupid or jerked around, so that's why I use Linux.

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    [–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

    Average BSD user:

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You're right TempleOS is the only perfect OS

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    Sorry but as a Linux user I found that Windows is better than macos. Macos doesn't even have proper window management.

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    [–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

    Missing the third hand for Windows users

    [–] possiblylinux127 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly MacOS is not great. At least with windows machines you can boot into a live system.

    [–] Honytawk 37 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    And have actual control over the OS.

    Seriously, if Apple decides an app is too old, then it flat out doesn't work. No way to prevent updating either unless it is basically without internet.

    Linuxians like to complain about not being able to control Windows, but Mac is like a hundred times worse in that regard. Not to mention ads to all those Apple software on there.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Apple: "Sorry but your hardware seems to be out of date with our OS! Please buy another 3000 dollar laptop that's only worth 1000!"

    Me: "But it still runs?"

    Apple: "Does it, though?"

    Me: "Well not anymore... Thanks."

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Mac users are at the sink right next to them also washing their hands. We don’t talk about the nasty things Linux users do with their hands.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Are Mac users compatible with normal sinks and water or do they need an adapter?

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    All those filthy command line arguments <3

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

    Yeah seriously. I don’t show anyone my bash history. That’s nastay.

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    I cant wait to fully abandon windows with my next tower (Already on Linux with my deck) but MacOS is FAR MORE cancer than M$, part of the issue with M$ is it keeps trying to be more and more like Apple

    2 edits: I think someone replied to this and then blocked me (or someone I've blocked replied to me somehow) as apparently theres a response to this but I cant see it nor have I been notified

    And

    Damn, a lot of you apparently want a mega corp have complete control over what what your operating system looks like/does/what accessories you can buy for it if you think Apple is in anyway better than Microsoft. I thought the whole point of jumping to linux was freedom, you have LESS freedom with macs than with PC's

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    in my opinion:

    software: mac/osx >> windows

    community/environment: windows/microsoft >> mac/apple

    if we're solely talking about how good the os is, i would have to say mac. but considering everything else, i would prefer windows

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (5 children)
    [–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I thought this until I actually tried windows, it just doesn't work right ever and feels so weird and old. I wouldn't use macos, but it's fine, it feels competently made and for the most part makes sense.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, Windows feels old but at least is usable (10 was more usable that 11 in my opinion). MacOS feels very janky to me and you have to jump to various hoops to do basic things

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (22 children)

    All Apple products are designed for people who don't use technology.

    They hide the useful bits so people don't hurt themselves.

    It's the Duplo of computing.

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    There are plenty of developers who use macs for work, me included. I mainly go with Mac for the build quality/battery life/performance though and also because my work pays for it so I don't need to worry about the exorbitant price. I would agree that MacOS is pretty janky at times and it requires a few third party apps to be reasonable usable.

    But I'm not really sure what you mean by useful bits? I don't feel like I'm really restricted in MacOS. If there isn't a UI element for something, you can probably adjust it in a terminal.

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    I will always choose Windows over Mac, if I have to. Using MacOS is infuriating on so many levels, I'd rather give myself the bullet (which doesn't mean much tbh). At least I can ameliorate Windows for my VMs (in case of apps not working on Wine) which makes it ok to use

    I know that this is irrational and I try to not let it influence my perception of people, but my brain is usually wired to "Mac user detected: technical opinion discarded"

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I have to use all three what does that make me

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

    Gotta scrub off the .DS_Store

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    For me, they both suck. I've been on Linux for close to 10 years now and continue to enjoy it more and more.

    However, I will say, that if I need to recommend a computer to somebody who knows nothing about computers and doesn't want to know anything, I will recommend Apple. I die a little inside each time though, knowing about their right to repair and privacy policies.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Linux > windows 10 > Windows 11 > MacOS is my experience, I just can't stand apple and their walled gardens. I hate that they try to force me to use their shitty cloud and prevent me from installing third party apps. Windows 11 hhurts my eyes. And as a W10 refugee that's gotten used to linux, I think its tolarable

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    The walled garden makes sense on the phone, but I’m not clear what you’re thinking of for macOS

    I just went to videolan.org and libreoffice.org over Thanksgiving to download and install them on my cousin’s MacBook

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