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[–] [email protected] 216 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Homeopathic everything should be removed from the market.

James Randi was amazing on the topic for people who don't understand the problem:

https://youtu.be/c0Z7KeNCi7g

[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (14 children)

It utterly boggles the mind that it's legal to sell homeopathic products. The word scam comes to mind, but it's so much worse than that because it's a scam that doesn't merely do nothing; it actually causes harm by confusing people and causing general distrust of actual treatments.

Labeling doesn't help either. Apparently the FTC understands the general public is dumb enough that we need "don't drink this" labels on bleach, but they credit them with being able to see through the confusing mumbo-jumbo that homeopathic products put on their labels to disguise the fact that it's just water.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

In fairness... have you seen Fabuloso bottles? :)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

yummie joose :3

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

That was the first product that made me want to post in the forbidden snacks community back in the dark years

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mmmm! Jungle juice and Covid cure all in one!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Sweet Jesus that looks good. I want to use it as a cleanser after eating tide pods.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If homeopathy had a different name it wouldn't be nearly as popular. People see it and they think "Oh, it's a home remedy because it says HOMEopathic."

There's plenty of home remedies that are at least marginally effective against colds: Hot water with honey, ginger, and lemon, for example. But homeopathy is not that. It's diluting something over and over again until there's nothing left of the original substance, and then selling it to gullible and/or desperate people like it's going to work.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Yup, and people see the "ingredients" listed as 6x, 8x, 10x and don't realize that's how many times it's been diluted.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

It's diluting something over and over again until there's nothing left of the original substance, and then selling it to gullible and/or desperate people like it's going to work.

It's crazy, like, a child can see right through that, yet you have millions of desperate adults falling for and hawking that obvious bullshit everywhere. It's really sad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

It's desperately popular in France (Boiron is French) and home doesn't sound the same at all.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 11 months ago (17 children)

Shouldn’t ALL homeopathic “medicine” be pulled?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Genetically Modified Skeptic intensifies

I swear I just heard drew screaming from atop a building somewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The fact that you can get around seemingly every FDA reg by just putting "this product not endorsed by the FDA" in tiny text in a corner of the packaging makes me wonder why we even have the FDA. If the laws were serious they'd make it so that you can not sell anything for human consumption that isn't approved.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I grew up with some of this stuff. We went through a raw milk phase, putting "This product not for human consumption" in big letters on the label it's not the obstacle you think it is, if anything it's more enticing to a certain type of person.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

The kind of person who overdoses on bovine/equus de-wormer?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

That is not true. You can make vague claims and have a disclaimer, think "promotes gut health" but you can't claim you cure cancer. The FDA will come after you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

That is incorrect, if you read up on the history of "patent drugs" (cure-alls) and the creation of the FDA you'll understand that there's an extremely fine line faux "medication" has to follow or risk being pulled from the market. For example you have to list the ingredients and you can't make claims that your product will cure illness, you can however make vauge claims of health improvements.

The world of quack medicine has vastly improved since the FDA's creation as most patent drugs of the time were some mix of opium, cocaine, and alcohol being sold as other made up miracle substances.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Change the words 'eye drop' to 'product' and it would be a far better thing for the FDA to say.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I work in a lab that often tests these types of things. I can tell you with certainty: STAY THE FUCK AWAY! DO NOT USE!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Bro can't just drop a warning like that and not explain further

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

The people in charge of testing for contamination have no idea what they are doing. I have a limited view of this, but from what I've seen they don't know what they need to test for. They don't have proper procedures in place of they get a positive test. Lastly they don't seem to have proper monitoring of their facilities to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they are empty or because they are full of contaminants?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

It's both because homeopathic remedies are pretty much useless and the people that make them have no business being anywhere near things people put in their bodies.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I read it wrong,

Every homophobic eye drop should be pulled off the market

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