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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Breaking news: Fossil fuel company CEO who was somehow allowed to run an international climate change summit says that fossil fuels aren't bad. Everyone is befuddled as to how such a thing could have happened.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

He is right. Once you ignore every single scientific evidence, there’s no science that backs ban on fossil fuels.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm not that up to speed on research and stuff, but isn't like all the science behind that?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, the science says stop right now, not phase out... And we're only talking about phase out

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, only the science based on decades of research, statistics, and hundreds of climate models.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It's only a model

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Here is the real kicker:

In 1996: COP 2, Geneva, Switzerland the very first point (after COP1 was just a kickoff) was:

  1. Accepted the scientific findings on climate change proffered by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its second assessment (1995);

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Climate_Change_conference (scrolls down to Cop2 Segment)

Sheikhs will be Sheikhs

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We’re boned, aren’t we?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure we are, its just a matter of how badly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Quote in the article from Al Jaber:

unless you want to take the world back into caves

This is projection: the nations whose economies are solely based on oil, will be going back to caves when their oil is either depleted or otherwise made impertinent.

I wish I could find the quote, which came from a Saudi prince I think, and went something like "Before oil, my grandfathers were herders; after oil, my grandsons will be herders".

Without diversifying before it's too late, I think that prince might be right. (Notwithstanding climate change issues, and how brutally hot it already gets there.)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's hilarious to think they have a massive warning flag and timeline...yet instead of figuring out how to diversify their countries, they just want to ignore it and push against the change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I kind of get it, they have newfound wealth that the west couldn't wrestle out of their hands. Not all of the middle east is a desert but a lot of it is, they need to figure out how to make their people prosper without oil (or at least enrich themselves) or else they go back to before. From a humanity continuing to exist perspective it is immoral and criminal, but from a "their countries continuing to exist kind of like today" it makes sense.

It's still bullshit. They have so much money they can find a solution that doesn't doom the planet.
The West aren't really any better, the United States is barely making any changes and those will get rolled back when the next GOP leadership gets installed into power. I don't get why humans have such a hard on to see the world burn.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

COP28 president says recent visual blindness, auditory deafness, and sudden loss of nerve feeling has made perceiving the outside world 'difficult' but maintains there is no science behind fossil fuels being bad.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

There has to be some sort of law that states if a situation would be considered satire in media it will happen within a serious context in real life. Because who the FUCK thought the oil barons would be a suitable host? This is beyond a joke. We aren't a clown world, or even a circus planet, this entire universe is made of fucken balloon animals.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

As well as running Cop28 in Dubai, Al Jaber is also the chief executive of the United Arab Emirates’ state oil company, Adnoc, which many ~~observers~~ people with a brain see as a serious conflict of interest.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Again, it's a climate conference in Dubai... Did anyone expect anything else?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A lot has happened since December 3rd, when this article was published.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Not really lol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

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