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I've installed Emudeck on my device, the process was really easy to follow, here's a guide.

I just made this post to share info and suggestions on the best games to try. Right now I'm playing a (totally owned) rom of Zelda breath of the wild and so far is flawless (although stuck to 30 fps x some reason). Any suggestion for other good game??

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Emudeck is heavily discouraged and unsupportorted by a good number of emulator dev teams for refusing to cooperate with them. Emudeck builds configuration files for you, not shying away from not recommended settings and causing issues in some emulators and games.

Also, some emulators have their source code edited and the changes are not documented/not public.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Any good alternative to try? Can you post some link about this issues??

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Retrodeck for me too. I found the devs very helpful and approachable. The work they are doing with the EmulationStation DE devs is making both better and really taking controller support to the next level.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I use it and it’s pretty good. They are open to people’s idea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately I don't have an external link about it, can only pin point a quite lenghty conversation and support request I had with a couple of the PCSX2 developers that happened in their Discord server. You can jump to the start of the conversation (if you are in the PCSX2 Discord server) using this link.

The conversation started after I asked them for support for the render window not taking the whole screen when attached to a 4:3 monitor, and told me about why they don't support at all PCSX2 installs made my Emudeck. Duckstation appears to also not support Emudeck for the lack of cooperation from the project.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 4 points 10 months ago

Interesting. I had actually been using emudeck because they provide a non-retroarch version of Duckstation (since Retroarch is run by a transphobic shithead)

At the end of the day, the platforms I most emulate on my steam deck are PS1 and PS2 with wii u and switch as mostly a "Ha, take that Nintendo. But... there are much better games to play than BOTW so...". Suspect the answer is to just use steam rom manager and standalone installs and was leaning toward doing that when I eventually upgrade to an OLED.

But this is pretty disappointing and I would love to read more.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

From your comments, it seems disingenuous to say a good number of emulator devs when it's really only PCSX2 (and I'm not sure where that statement on refusing to cooperate originated from, which is unfortunate to see). Based off the Discord link you shared, I think you accidentally went into the conversation without a lot of key information (which can be found on EmuDeck's wiki and GitHub repo).

EmuDeck downloads the AppImage of PSCX2 not the Flatpak. EmuDeck configures only a few things with PCSX2 (namely the renderer which was recently fixed and should now be removed in the config, file paths, and big picture mode). In addition to those, controls and hotkeys are also configured.

To be synchronous with PSCX2's recommendations, that renderer should be flipped back to auto from vulkan, the big picture flag removed, and the paths to use symlinks instead. Other than those 3 items, there are no real erroneous configurations (that I'm aware of) that should be in disconnect with what PCSX2 wants. These configs shouldn't affect performance at all. I may PR these 3 items sometime soon, but again these don't cause any issues in the games themselves.

The PCSX2 auto-updater you mention being broken works completely fine, I don't know why it doesn't work on your end. Anyway, I'm not sure of any major conflict with other dev teams. And hopefully a PR with the above fixes should get EmuDeck back in good graces with PCSX2.

And to re-affirm, it's really important to go into a support conversation understanding the tools you are using, the Discord conversation linked is sort of a hot mess of misinformation (since PCSX2 likely doesn't use EmuDeck to use their own emulator, the user should know what they're using to best receive support).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I've not had any problems with it and I found it super easy to setup and use

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I recommend retrodeck. They seeme to really care about emulating. And the devs really talk to pieople all of the time. They need help with more devs to support their work.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The steam deck can handle every game on every system from the PS2 and back, most games on the switch and PS3, smattering of Xbox and 360 and everything on PC barring the most graphically intensive AAA titles. Recommendations on that potential scope can go on forever.

If you like Zelda there are a few titles regarded as "must play" in the series, including Ocarina of Time, Link to the Past, Twilight Princess and many more in the "A" tier of Zelda titles. You've got probably years of play time just in those.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would just like to throw in that that PC port of OoT is maybe the best way to enjoy that game on deck. The only downside is no retro achievement support.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How can you play it? I've never beat OoT and I'd love to do it on the deck.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You use your own rom and run it with Ship of Harkinian, which allows you add right stick camera controls, better button mappings, and mods for things such as graphical enhancements.

I don't know how easy it would be to find, but if you manage to get SoH up and running on your deck, I made a community controller configuration for it called "Ocarina of Time - Harkinian Deck: C-button Radial, Config Toggle".

Basically it works like this:

Right touch pad = "C-button" radial menu

  • Remaps LB, Y, RB, and L3 to a C-button-themed radial menu as Left, Up, Right, and Down respectively.

(You will need to remap your C-buttons away from the right stick in Ship of Harkinian if you want to use it for camera controls. You can just use the radial menu to accomplish that.)

Select Button = "Config mode" toggle

  • Summons the Ship of Harkinian Config menu.
  • Changes the right analog, touch-pad, and triggers to mouse mode.
  • Migrates the C-button radial system to the left touch pad so you can still use it for remapping the c-buttons.
  • Pressing the button again dismisses the config menu and returns the game to normal "Game mode" controls.

(Don't close the game with the config mode controls active or you will be stuck with config controls the next time you start the game. Be sure to quit the game with the game mode controls active.)

I made a couple tweaks, so I don't know if those are reflected in the community config file I shared.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Emudeck was my main reason for picking up a steam deck. Figured I could get an archive of retro games, and then build up a library of indie games over time.

I have to do some troubleshooting to get PS1 and PS2 games working, but that is probably just getting bios files. Just downloaded so many games that I am working through that even when something doesn't work immediately I have more than enough options to be entertained.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I want to try God of war 1 and 2. Maybe even the 3 if the ps3 emulator can run it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What's the difference between emudeck and retrodeck? I've been using retrodeck and enjoying it quite a lot.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As I recall, retro deck installs an emulation hub that you go into, and then choose what to emulate.

Emudeck installs a bunch of individual emulators and configures them, and also sets up roms so they show up as standalone games in your library. The end result is the games feel like steam games, and you rarely have to mess with anything showing them to be emulated titles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Emudeck also installs EmulationStation. You can choose to access your games and not by integrating then into Steam. Just like Retrodeck.

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[–] lazorne 4 points 10 months ago

Fubarberry

RetroDECK is a flatpak application that builds in a variety of emulators and systems into one app you can download from flathub.

We are also working on the "Add to Steam" function. You can read more about it in the links posted in other replies in this thread :)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

From my experience Retrodeck tends to lose the config files a lot during updates. So far I'm yet to experience that with Emudeck.

EDIT: Apparently it was a bug and it's been fixed almost a year ago, see the dev reply below. Don't let my comment discourage you from choosing RetroDECK!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Greetings, RetroDECK dev here, this was a known issue that was solved on 0.6.2b (15/03/2023), now we are on 0.7.5b and that bug is only a memory. Please let us know if you encounter any issue related to your config if you will decide to try RetroDECK again. Thanks a lot for your patience :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, that's amazing to hear! I prefer the design of RetroDECK over Emudeck a lot, so I'm more than happy to migrate back then.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Not a contest, really. Post the link I'll check that too 👌. What retro game you play??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's in the Discover app, just do a search for it! I like the fact that it has a scraper for getting box art, game metadata, etc.

As for what I've been playing, recently finished Jet Set Radio Future and I've been playing Luigi's Mansion and Super Mario Sunshine, along with some og Animal Crossing (I love that the villagers have no problems with insulting you).

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Last I heard breath of the wild ran MUCH better using the Wii u version in cemu, that's how I originally set mine up and it runs great, and some mods make it even better. That said if you're on switch make sure you're not running it in docked mode, it's capped at 30. I believe both yuzu and ryujinx let you set that on a global or per game basis. Then tears of the kingdom is only on switch :) hope this helps!

I love emudeck and emulation on the deck. The Metroid prime trilogy using primehack is SEXY

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Should i disable "docked mode" somewhere?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Metroid Prime Remastered plays almost flawlessly on the Deck. Definitely worth trying either for the nostalgia, or because you missed one of the best GameCube games.

The Prime hack trilogy is also very fun, (but a Wii game).

I also really enjoy ~~Zelda a Link to the past~~ Links Awakening, it also works almost perfectly if you use a newer version of Yuzu.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I suggest Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island from SNES. Amazing game with a killer soundtrack.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I haven't been able to get Xbox 360 to work. I really want to play forza horizon 1

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Like many others, I highly suggest Retrodeck instead of EmuDeck. Not only it is a flawless experience, but having it all packaged in a flatpak means it won't scatter files around for every emulator which are then hard to clean up (like EmuDeck does, usually).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did you try Breath of the Wild on cemu?Itbelievei the steam deck can do >30fps in it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I used Yuzu, 30fps are good enough for now. Just curious about the controls. The action, jump and fight button are mapped a bit differently from the one on the steams games, it seems that B is mapped instead of A (maybe just a Switch thing).

Edit

Yep, different position. I'll fix it later.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are mods for TOTK to display and use the deck layout (or Xbox controller or whatever).

That mod surely exists for BOTW.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you like turn based JRPGs? You can play Person 3, 4 and 5 on Yuzu. Performance is the same as the switch.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Gameboy advance: advance wars & advance wars2

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Maybe someone can help me out. I have EmulationStation installed and for GBA and 3DS games, it works perfectly. Zero complaints. The issue is for some reason N64 games won't work after r a Steam Deck update. Without fail, every single time I update my Deck, N64 games refuse to open. I have no idea where to start troubleshooting.... I've been able to install an N64 game, add it to Steam, play it in Gaming mode and everything works fine. Just refuses to let me open any N64 game after an update.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

"Install this blob of data that you just download from this random URL" isn't something I'm ever going to do on any computer I own. Doesn't Emudeck support something more reasonable like a flatpak?

[–] lazorne 4 points 10 months ago

Hello, RetroDECK is a flatpak.

RetroDECK: What is RetroDECK?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I loved it until it randomly stopped working and I never figured out why. Uninstalled, reinstalled and still won’t even open.

Also, the uninstall wiped my library so that was annoying.

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