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And you did the thing, time for me to go read a bunch of tankie nonsense.

Hell, I might do it. Assuming I am not entirely banned from all of ml lemmy for pointing out that China is actually a dystopian surveillance state capitalist society with draconian limitations on personal freedom, but yes they did modernize and industrialize quite effectively.

I am apparently blaming socialism for the holodomor here, not you know, Stalin and his bolsheviks.

Bud if you have not figured this out yet youre talking to an anarcho communist whose done more actual real world praxis for the poor and the down trodden, in the real world, actually helping to house literally thousands of homeless or home insecure in the real world, in the course of a year than youll ever do in in your whole life arguing over which red fascist's theory is the best and why on the internet.

Bella Ciao.

Oh ok wow it was a couple of quotes of historians saying it wasnt intentional genocide followed by one who noted there was a famine.

Yes. Yes there was a famine. That was greatly exacerbated by both the absurd production quotas put on Ukraine to supply many other parts of the Soviet Union by Stalin, and also exacerbated by again incompetent execution of the reorganization of basically all agricultural production in Ukraine.

The post doesnt even cite anything that even disputes that.

You never named any liberal historian of which you claimed there are multiple who would prove your argument, you just called them all Nazis instead.

So let me tell you: You are not immune to propoganda. And Stalin was and literally as evidenced by you right now, still is, one of the most effective propogandists of all time.

What a perfect little tankie you are.

Source?

There were a 'fuck ton' of Nazis in Ukraine from 1931 to 1933?

You are telling me Ukraine was full of Nazis during a time period nearly totally before the Enabling Act, while all the Nazis were streetfighting in Germany and devoting all their resources to taking over the German Societt and Government, that they sent fucktons of their membership over to the Soviet Union to... do unspecified things, and that Stalin and the Bolsheviks either did not notice this or were not displeased enough by this to not ally with Hitler to allow him to take France and the low countries and split up Poland less than a decade later?

Stalin, who was famously in disbelief that Hitler reneged on his pact with him due to apparently actually trusting him to some degree, this same Stalin either did not notice or did not mind a fuck ton of Nazis causing a famine that killed millions in his country?

????????

And I mean source as in like any kind of historical documentation of this, or a comprehensive review of such evidence published in some way, not some zany idea some internet tankie made up as fanfiction for their alternate reality novel.