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The Navy said Friday that it will allow those without a high school diploma to enlist as long as they score a 50 or higher on the Armed Forces Qualification Test that all prospects must take, the latest move to boost recruitment in the face of an historic recruiting crisis reverberating across the services.
holy shit. from elsewhere:
An AFQT score of 50 indicates that the examinee scored as well as or better than 50% of the nationally-representative sample
apparently they will take a high school senior / graduate into the Air Force with a 31 though and historically would take a GED with a 50. but now no GED needed.
the 31 for high school grads explains how my cousin got into the AF. he barely graduated HS and it was like a really big deal that he made it. the kid is not sharp in general, even less so on paper. if it weren't for the Employer of Last Resort, he'd probably be on the streets or in prison. but as career military, he's got a mortgage, is up to his eyeballs in unsecured debt and has multiple jetskis. a real american success story.
anyway, in my experience, the kids dropping out / getting GEDs were doing so not because they were dumb, but because their home situation was fucked. like they could drop out of high school at 16 and take the test for the GED and more easily emancipate themselves so they could leave their house, qualify for some meager assistance program distinct from their parents, or get a job not generally offered to a high school attendee. like, so really this is probably more about opening up the military route to people with really strapped circumstances.
anyway, further down the article:
For example, the Navy adjusted the maximum enlistment age in November 2022 from 39 to 41, and raised the maximum enlistment bonus to $50,000 in February 2022.
The Navy also now offers a $75,000 maximum enlistment bonus for those entering the nuclear field under a policy announced in June.
god dam.
Just like the civilian world, the military needs people to be Janitors as well as Nuke Operators... It takes all kinds to make the world go round. There are probably at least a few people with decent enough intelligence (aptitude) but with little or no direction, or ability to finish HS get a GED that this might open some doors for, or allow them to 'get out' of their current situation. Maybe learn a new skill, get some education where otherwise they may have just floundered. Or they could just be cannon fodder :-/
It will be interesting to see how this works out.
In South Africa it's the opposite, to join the air force (as a pilot at least) you have to be super smart and have good grades to even be considered.
Same in the US military. To fly anything is pretty stringently rigorous and high competition.
“Easiest” flight pipeline is probably the Army’s “High School-To-Flight School” which takes exceptional high schoolers and places them as warrant officer helicopter pilots. But in ten years of existence it’s only produced maybe 80 pilots.
Conversely, for Navy Aviation (say, fast jets for example) you have to graduate in the top 50% of your class from a top 200 university, preferably with a BS, within a certain seated height and uncorrected vision acuity, pass the officer qualification test, the aviator qualification test, officer school with a high proficiency, two years of flight school finishing in the top 20%, select fast fixed-wing jets, hopefully find an open seat, then qualify on catapult and cable retrieval. All for a total of about 1800 seats. After that it’s trying to qualify and be elected to Top Gun and hope it doesn’t ruin your career.
Then I guess all those people getting 31 on the test and joining the air force just sit around on base and become pencil pushers, maintenance, or janitors?
No wonder it's nicknamed the chair force.
Can't say South Africa is any better, for general military stuff they'll take anyone between the age of 18 to 22 with a pulse. You need the equivalent of a 1.5 GPA to get in (17 out 42 APS score). If you're over the age of 22, any tertiary qualification will do. Luckily no more conscription since the end of apartheid.
yeah, like for every pilot there's probably 50 bozos filling up generators with diesel and accidentally putting it in the wrong tanks while huffing the fumes and like 100 guys with jobs like "handing out socks in a tent" or "load cargo planes with frozen hamburgers and white phosphorous."
To clarify, this is the AFQT which is a seperate subtest from the ASVAB and specifically for USAF service that you actually have to put a modicum of effort into, but for the good jobs — and by good I mean interesting, stimulating and potentially lucrative as a civvie — no. 30 won’t get you into special operations, specialized maintenance/aircrew, or the good “chair force” jobs like combat engineering, space, medical, scientific support, cyber, weather…etc. It’s also probably going to ding you for officer or hinder the climb to higher NCO, which is similarly equivalent to warrant officer in other services.
No, it’s going to be stuff like “light vehicle driver,” or “airport maintenance” where you ride around in the bed of a pickup and shoot a shotgun in the air to scare off birds. It used to not even qualify you to be a cop it’s so low.
And pray that you don't go through all that only to be given the keys to a brand new, sparkly F-35 that nobody knew was never built to fly.
They actually had to start assigning certain amounts of top finishers to certain airframes. Used to finishing in the top percentiles let you pick you plane, so all the best pilots picked the big planes like the P-8 Posiedon so they’d skip recertification when they went to the airlines. Too many did so and admin mandated 50% of the top has to go fighters.
The “Fat Amy” has taken a lot of sexy out of naval aviation now that all the F/A-18 Hornets (“Rhinos”) are getting converted over to “Grizzlies.” A lot of pilots opt out of the F-35 for quality-of-life reasons since the cockpit is like sitting in a papasan chair and it feels like flying a brick.
Doesn't graduate highschool... still learns to turn wrenches on a nuclear reactor... 
Please, our imperial forces are very sick.
someone's gotta wade around looking for mines
Somebody's gotta scratch the bellies of the mine sniffing dolphins..
~~McNamaras Morons~~ Bidens Bumbling Navy Brigade
More meat for the meat throne.
America eats its young.
So what do yous all think is the benefit of a GED and how does it distinguish a person?
do math
I worked at a community college for a while that had a GED program. i came out of that experience with mixed feelings. on the one hand, I saw a lot of people - especially folks who were immigrants that were simultaneously learning English and making the sincere effort to catch up on an education that had been denied them by various means, as well as people who were local but also for various reasons had missed out on public education - whose genuine desire to learn and to have completed the academic process I found so admirable that i was able to turn my eyes away from the other hand --
which is that i really just think it's another way to suck money out of people so that they can be shovelled into the gears of capital. "pay us to give you the paper that will allow you to more easily sell your labor (for less than you're really worth)"
how does it distinguish a person?
as far as im concerned, it doesn't. i mean, like with point 1, i don't want to diminish any person who is able to obtain a GED's accomplishments, but if i were an employer (which I most certainly am not), would i value someone with a GED over someone without? frankly, probably not.