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The CEO of the company whose Titanic-seeking submarine has been missing for nearly two days once said safety was a "pure waste."

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I work as a researcher in the university lab OceanGate used to test their vessels. My colleague told me that they would have tests run 7 times resulting in 6 failures and 1 success. OceanGate engineers (maybe their leadership?) would chalk that up as a success and keep going. My colleague says no one in the building would ever get into anything these "morons" built.

I assume there's a fair bit of hyperbole in this, but I think it generally is matching what we're seeing. Oh, also the general consensus here is that their hull caved in and they've been dead for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing I can say is if they ever do find the sub intact, its very likely these guys recorded their last hours on their phones and we are very likely to see that at some point… talk about nightmare fuel.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think waterproof phones are waterproof at that depth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes if the cabin filled up with water then the data would not be retrievable. But it sounds now like they have found a debris field so the thing imploded. Best way for them to go really.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

"You know, at some point, safety is just pure waste," Rush told CBS' David Pogue during an episode of his "Unsung Science" podcast. "I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, don't get in your car, don't do anything. At some point, you're going to take some risk, and it really is a risk-reward question."

There's a slight difference between driving in a car and going to the bottom of the ocean in tin can. These are not equivalent.

This dumbass earned his Darwin award, it's just too bad he had to take four other people with him who were lied to about the safety of the expedition.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To quote the article:

I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, don't get in your car, don't do anything. At some point, you're going to take some risk, and it really is a risk-reward question.

Because passenger vehicle safety hasn't had leaps and bounds since their inception. This is the equivalent of "don't get hurt" on job sites, and has about the same results. Regulations are written in blood.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck the billionaires taking submarine rides for shits and giggles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel the same about billionaires that take trips to space for fun.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Personally I have no problem with this dude being the billionaire's underwater tour manager.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I propose that we replace the phrase "hoisted by your own pitard" with "sunk by your own submarine." Feels more modern and less like my wife will laugh at me whenever I say it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Its too bad that idiot had to take 4 other people to their deaths with him, especially that kid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We should never replace that phrase, just send your wife this simple explanation to get her on board with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

He fucked around and found out

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Real 'leopards ate my face' kind of attitude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not many leopards in the north Atlantic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assume that they had quite some time to discuss the topic since Sunday, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"I think I can do this just as safely while breaking the rules," he added at the time.

Doesn’t sound that out of context to me. Rules and regulations are written in blood. FAFO

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

not if they were crushed instantly by water pressure, as it appears to be the case

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a good candidate for a Darwin Award.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think those kind of statements shouldn't be taken out of context.

I mean, it's not wrong to say there has to be a balance between security and usability, but neglecting security measures is a totally different thing.

It's true that, unfortunately often, top managers are the ones always trying to be cheap on security, but I don't think it's fair trying to imply someone actually did by publishing a statement out of context.

This thing will be investigated for sure, let's not start a witch-hunt before knowing the facts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You have a point, but in this case, I don't think it's really out of context. His attitude was very relevant to this tragedy imo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They're clearly not witches, as evidenced by the fact that they don't float.