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Why YSK: It appears several Lemmy Instances are flagged as suspicious and at least 1 instance intentionally using the name of ransomware. A couple of the big enterprise monitoring suites (Fortiguard, ZScaler) will flag your account and may end up with you being pulled into an office for an explanation, or worse.

TL;DR: Keep browsing to your local instance at work for now.

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Don’t use company computers for personal stuff, it all gets logged and can be used against you at the very least as evidence that you weren’t working come performance reviews.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's fucking insane people don't know this in 2023.

Work computers are for work, and pretty much every employer monitors what you do on it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I occasionally click on the little wether icon and see what the forecast looks like. Hope I don't get fired!

At my old job we had to research customers which frequently involved looking on Facebook and other sites. I was very intentionally not logged in, which probably wouldn't work now, and kept any and all searches to items that I could prove were related to a work item. It's insane that people don't follow that advice.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Things like weather will be fine unless you have an unreasonable boss/job.

But people should only use work computers the way they would if they knew the entire company was watching a live stream of their desktop.

Even for working from home, I put my work laptop on the isolated guest wifi because I don't trust them the same way they don't trust me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Work computers are for work, and pretty much every employer monitors what you do on it.

Depends heavily on where you work. My employer don't track what we use the computers for (of course there's a 'TOS' of sorts which says that it's company property and should only be used for company stuff) but as long as you are at least somewhat reasonable on what you use the system for it's fair play. Things like checking your personal email and occasional visit to lemmy/whatever your social media poison is doesn't raise any flags as long as you get the job done and that's it. Of course you can't install anything on the system but as long as a browser session on incognito mode is enough and it doesn't harm your duties, while technically forbidden, no one really cares.

And yes, I know this for sure, as I'm one of the guys who enforces the policies for our gear. YMMV.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

And the same goes for company wifi if you have to log in with your own username.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if you don't, there's plenty of different ways to identify a user on company wifi.

For example, have your cellphone named "Stephano's iPhone"? Narrows it down to the Stephanos working in range of that access point.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use my own Internet for my phone. No point messing with work Internet unless necessary.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Right? I dont want the nerds at IT to find out where I get all my free porn.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just don't use a work computer for anything but work. Use your personal cell phone and don't use their wifi.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It constantly surprises me how many people use their work computers as as if it was a personal computer. They've got family pictures, shopping, browsing, socials, everything. I've tried mentioning before, in a roundabout way, but people really don't care. And then when they get laid off or quit then they're shocked as hell once the computer's remotely locked and wiped and then they make a big stink about how all of their stuff was on there. It's like what did you expect to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why would people not just use their phones? I would never browse any social media on a work computer.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had a lady in the marketing department open a ticket with us many years ago when ILoveYou was running rampant and we had blocked yahoo mail, gmail, etc on our corporate network and she was PISSED because "I need to access that for my other job!". Yes, she put that in the ticket. That was a brief discussion with her manager and a resume generating event for her.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

"Resume generating event" - that took me a moment, but then I laughed

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Browsing personal sites, especially social media, on a work computer is insane

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stay off company resources when using technology for personal use.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Underrated comment right here...

Yall got phones jfc

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pro tip: Don't do not-work stuff on work owned hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Why do people use work computers anymore when cellphones exist?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Phone got small screen. Computer got big screen.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't even connect to my work's wifi

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I've worked a job that required using an app on my phone, and in order to install that app I had to give ROOT ACCESS and full remote control to the IT department and was subject to the same monitoring as when using a company desk or laptop. I just grabbed an older phone I had lying around and used that for work because I wasn't about to give complete remote access to the phone I actually used every day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why did the company not supply the phone to be used for company purposes?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck that. Our company gives us phones because they know they're secure. And we don't use them for anything but work related apps. I still make all my phone calls from my personal or office phone

I say, "We," but that's not entirely true. There are a couple of jackasses that do everything on them, but I assume the company can see it of they want to. So, fuck that

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not personally surfing Lemmy on my work computer, but larger screen + physical keyboard and mouse.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Rough day at work today, OP...?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

On phone, use LTE. On computer set up a cheap Linux shell on your vsp of choice. Then use an ssh socks proxy for your browser.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think your company computer allows for the same things my company computer does

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Never attach a personal device to a company network!!!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TL;DR: Keep browsing to your local instance at work for now.

YSK even the local tab on any instance will load many transcluded images from other instances.

if you're worried about your employer monitoring for suspicious hostnames, you're rolling the dice every time you do any personal web browsing (outside of sites that don't transclude 3rd party images, like wikipedia, and, ironically, facebook...).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Why in the heck would anyone browse any social media on your company machine?

That's the whole reason I left Reddit because it forced me to have to use Reddit on a computer and it's one of the first things I remind new hires not to use social media on company property, it's always monitored from keyboard to Internet connection.

Good lord people...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I imagine the socialist/ML and pro-union content also plays into this (speaking as a socialist and extremely pro-union, mind you). Corporations hate and are terrified of any sort of dissidence that threatens their profits and will absolutely police your activity on it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Well, you should be using a VPN for privacy anyway, so that wouldn't be a problem.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Do you guys not have phones?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad my work doesn't care what I do online as long as I get my shit done. It's not the highest paying job in the world, but perks like that keep me there.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Better idea.. you could work. Or use a VPN on your phone.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The wifi at my work won't let me browse Lemmy at all. I have to enable a VPN on my phone to browse, or go to mobile data.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You guys aren't using DoT (DNS-over-TLS) or DoH (DNS-over-HTTPS) ??

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This does not apply for most european users. Source: I am the one who gets these requests and anyone who isn't a judge gets jack shit. Go pound sand. Anything else would be illegal under privacy and work laws. Even police wont get ANYTHING (judge will reject it) if the crime in question isn't worth at least 2 years of jail time.

Suspected malware domains just get blocked, no further action will ever take place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I find it crazy that you can get in trouble for browsing the wrong websites. It's illegal where I live to track people's computers.

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