I know, but if you also want credit I can credit you! @[email protected] provided 99% of the audiobooks as well, this isn't a list made by one person alone.
Cowbee
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I don't upvote my own comments, for starters. I have a Hexbear account I use for Lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net content, and Lemmy.ml for everything else.
Secondly, I don't understand your own point. You're trying to say the top 1% in the US aren't bourgeoisie because they own stock, not the Means of Production "directly" like in a factory of Marx's era, but that's not a determining factor for Marx's bourgeoisie. You are trying to make it so.
It's absolutely true of the US. Stock owners are also bourgeoisie.
The bourgeoisie are not the middle class, but the wealthiest 1%. The Petite Bourgeoisie are the middle class. The Bourgeoisie used to be the middle class until they collaborated with the proletariat and petite bourgeoisie to overthrow the aristocracy.
"I have, which will surprise you not a little, been speculating — partly in American funds, but more especially in English stocks, which are springing up like mushrooms this year (in furtherance of every imaginable and unimaginable joint stock enterprise), are forced up to quite an unreasonable level and then, for the most part, collapse. In this way, I have made over £400 and, now that the complexity of the political situation affords greater scope, I shall begin all over again. It’s a type of operation that makes demands on one’s time, and it’s worth while running some risk in order to relieve the enemy of his money."
-Karl Marx, 1864.
This isn't about the RTS, but about stock ownership.
Even in Marx's time, there was stock speculation, he even won money on the stock market on occasion. The Bourgeoisie are owners of Capital, this includes large financial and stock Capital as well. The subsection of the bourgeoisie that faces proletarianization is the Petite Bourgeoisie.
You'd do well to read Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism.
The problem is that revolution is necessary, and simply hoping things get better isn't acceptable. Agitprop needs a practical message as well.
You're using class terminology in a way that doesn't conform to any leftist current and this deliberately confuses the conversation. Furthermore, the bourgeoisie are the class that owns Blackrock, Vanguard, etc. You are using Petite Bourgeoisie to refer to Bourgeoisie.
Sounds good! I'll make a credit addendum and comment in a short bit when I can.