Idk why this forum is constantly doomering about reaching people as if they were not themselves presumably liberals at one point of their lives.

The mean age on this site seems to be around 30, ie people who grew up during the Iraq War and were probably radicalized by it. I think the experience of watching people be rabidly pro-War, slowly realizing the war was bad and quietly editing their opinions over time till the point even a lot of politicians who openly called for it deny they ever supported it, to seeing Liberals become even more hawkish than conservatives once the memory of the war had faded and US hegemony starting to be threatened black pilled a lot of us on the hope Westoids could ever have their heads pulled out of their ass. It does feel like if the War on Terror didn't teach you your lesson you ain't never learning it.

Idk why this forum refuses to believe this because its demonstrably true if you actually talk to people but there are plenty of well meaning radlibs who haven't looked at the Ukraine issue beyond seeing Putin as the aggressor and therefor the bad.

It's really not "demonstrably true". I'm not doubting your personal experiences here but maybe consider you've stumbled on a unique and statistically rare group of open minded Libs? Or maybe they're not really even that open minded but just kind of passive and let any mildly articulate person talk them into whatever, so the second the media blitzes them with some more pro-West propaganda they're going to forget everything you told them.

There's just as many stories on this site about people trying to talk to the Libs in their life and being meet with infinitely high and thick brick walls of bullshit. If you're having success educating a few people I think that's awesome and celebrate your efforts, but a lot of others have tried and found it's not worth it and I don't blame them.

Regardless they don't have secret trans swastikas on their hard drive. They maybe fash deep down but they're not self aware of the fact.

trans colored swastika flags they 100% have saved on their hard drives

Lol, they 100% don't. I find these chuckle fucks inconsistent world view as repugnant as the next ML but they don't conceptualize any of this as Nazism. Actually understanding the dark history of NATO requires you be a diligent geopolitics nerd, and these dorks don't have the patience, energy or will for that. So they just vibe that they enjoy living under bourgeois liberalism and defend who they believe to be defending it. It's not that their closet fash, they're just cowardly Libs.

Lol I fucking DARE any Lib lurkers to show their fucking faces in this site right now. Seriously, show yourselves COWARDS!

They view it as the "lesser of two hierarchies", at least that's how the pro-NATO anarchists I know put it. All states are evil but Western states are at least less domestically repressive and since there's no hope of an anarchist revolution anywhere in the near future supporting them as the lesser evil against regressive oligarchies like Russia and Red Fash genocidal states like China is the pragmatic thing to do.

Again, that's their stated logic not mine.

Well it is sadly.

I know two very pro-NATO trans women. One's an anarchist lol.

In the internet age, impossible

Uh, maybe in the original Hebrew. But I see several words here that are in all the English translations. "You" for example.

if you were born here you'd probably do the same shit a lot of these hogs are doing

I was born here

Libs really love selectively overestimating the military preparedness of MAGA CHUDs.

Okay, cool, that's a respectable position. But if that's you're line than don't say shit like:

"Burgerbrain Westoid Kkkrackkkers DESERVE gulag for FALLING for tasty treat brain melt propaganda!"

Even if you're just blowing off steam.

Idk if you have personally but I'm sure other here have both expressed sentiment like yours and also gone on "Burgerbrain" rants.