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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I understand you specifically present outwardly as masc, and as you said lots of AMAB non-binary people do. However the phrasing is just... weird because it implies male privilege is a universal Thing to AMAB people. I am indeed bringing a lot of baggage to this conversation that doesn't affect you, however I am bringing it because the joke makes me uncomfortable. Please understand that I am seeing this from a different perspective and, while your personal experience might work with the joke, the joke implies at least somewhat that it's somehow universal to AMAB people and that bugs me. Plus like??? There are a LOT of non-AMAB people that experience male privilege (trans men???)

Like it shouldn't take this much for someone to say that a joke is just really uncomfortable to them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like it shouldn't take this much for someone to say that a joke is just really uncomfortable to them.

Nor should I have to go so far to justify a joke to you that is based entirely on my own experiences

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You have to justify the joke because it also reaches into and comments on MY experiences because I'm an AMAB person, Jesus Christ.

Edit: Like if you made a post like "As a white-passing mixed-race hispanic person I experience reverse racism, prayers in chat" it would be blatantly weird and kind of offensive and/or just outright nonsensical because like, sure, it might technically be true they have privilege, in some circumstances, but 99% of the time I've heard when people attack mixed-race people for being "too white" it's just punching down.

Edit 2: https://juliaserano.substack.com/p/on-male-socialization-and-the-trans

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You have to justify the joke because it also reaches into and comments on MY experiences because I'm an AMAB person, Jesus Christ

No, I don't, actually. I never said or implied that I was speaking for every AMAB person. I'm also not Jesus Christ.

Like if you made a post like "As a white-passing mixed-race hispanic person I experience reverse racism, prayers in chat"

I support the right of any white-passing Hispanic person to say this lol, and I honestly am not sure what you're trying to get at. What right do you have say this is offensive if that's their experience? What are you policing this hypothetical person for anyway?

https://juliaserano.substack.com/p/on-male-socialization-and-the-trans

Great article, except I've already read it and it doesn't have anything to do with me. If you want to go tell at some TERFs, go right ahead, they deserve it. But spare me your outrage over me joking about experiencing male privilege

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No, I don't, actually. I never said or implied that I was speaking for every AMAB person. I'm also not Jesus Christ.

... tbh that makes sense, sorry. I'm doing the neurotypical thing of assuming shit that wasn't said. Idk uhhh, fuck I'm sorry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's alright. I can tell this touched on an issue you care deeply about

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

thank you, it was still out of line from me. thank you for being patient.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

No worries comrade