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[–] [email protected] 163 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Trump was booed especially loudly when he called for the Libertarian Party to nominate him, instead of its own candidate, in the election.

"Or you can just keep getting your three percent"

Not that I care, but what the fuck was your plan here? Just roasting libertarians for the fun of it?

Which to be fair, is a hobby of mine.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

He thought he could roll in and get their endorsement over their own candidate.

Say what you want about the Libertarians, they are not the drooling idiots of the MAGA crowd.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah they're not stupid, they're selfish. So they're not that different from some Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

They're not Repub-level stupid, but they do think libertarianism would work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Selfish or immature/naive. I feel like most guys go through a libertarian phase, no matter how brief it might be.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean I have different opinions than most Libertarians but I applaud the true Libertarian POV of “leave me the fuck alone”

If I lived alone on an island, I’d probably be one too.

But, considering the government (Republican or Democratic) will take whatever the fuck they want from my wages and then gouge me again on sales tax, I just want to dump as much of those taxes into helping others and the rest can go to helping to maintain and expand green spaces as well as infrastructure and roads.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fun fact: most libertarians don't want to be left alone. They don't want to be regulated. They still want a society with rules, they just want those rules to be whatever they decide works for them, without regard to whether those rules would fuck over someone else.

Some so-called libertarians actually do want to live apart from society but at that point they're just antisocial. Because being libertarian means you need to be part of a group, which is antithetical to the ethos of being left alone.

Both of these cohorts are no fun at parties.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Social libertarian, so many here seem to forget this label exists.

In honestly though, labels are fucking stupid. No one can directly fit under any of them, without a "but" clause stating the shit they don't agree with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I just use "pissed off Democrat"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

Right? This is a real, "the worst person you know just made a good point," moment.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was zero plan as usual. The thing is, imagine what's going to happen after Trump. Imagine someone who is actually charismatic and smart in Trump's place who tows the same basic line. That's what really scares me

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I see this sentiment often, which has afforded me the chance to reflect on it. The hypothetical smarter, shrewder, Trump-like candidate would likely hold less appeal to the party. As it stands, aspiring connivers operate under the belief that they can exert enough control to get what they want, consequences be damned. Essentially, they are gambling that they can act as the ego to his id on matters that they prioritize. A more intelligent candidate would certainly have a higher degree of agency and thus would be of less value to the manipulators. Trump, and those who resemble him, are the most dangerous sort.

This is the best answer I've been able to formulate as to why those who present as fools and dunces form the face of the MAGA movement. These people are useful idiots who garner support from interested parties focused on specific goals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I really do hope you're right

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

I mean, in a way it would be a good move for the libertarians to do something like that for a year, as getting over certain thresholds unlocks more election funding.

Then again, the libertarian party doing something to get more government funding isn't exactly ideologically consistent.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I'm just glad the orange idiot roasted them to their face. It's hilarious that he called out their shit electoral performance and bottom of the barrel chance at one of their own rallies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

NO plan just narcissism. He couldn't be upstaged by the libertarian candidate...