There's nothing more to say. It's literally the r/neoliberal post from a week ago, with some more edition because lemmy libs apparently are dumber and can't understand something unless it's spelled to them.
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All due respect to my fellow Americans, but I hope with all my heart that Amerikkka falls as low as Babylon.
the due respect is nonexistent
There's some good people in the streets, mainly from the black and immigrant community, but I suppose these people are not really considered "American" there...
youre right actually. good point.
I'm not judging you. My initial impetus for my comment was to say that I hoped all of Amerikkka would be nuked. Then I remembered my comrades there, including the indigenous people I forgot to mention earlier. We have to give them a fair country...
And maybe that means killing most of the white population there.
Most of the white population in America is working class and not assigned racist at birth, but Rather made racist through propaganda. The issue with America is not that the cumskins have a racism gene, but that they are racist because the material conditions of America demands racism to keep quality of life up for those people. However, most of them are working class and do have revolutionary potential in that regard and have historically had revolutionary potential. I think
is not an effective way of ending American imperialism and the boot of capitalism.
I'm sorry sis; but this is the one place I disagree with you. I don't disagree with the "not assigned racist at birth"; but where I disagree is that I don't think those maladaptive teachings ever will 'come out in the wash'. Not without every single person who COULD pass on racist teachings to potential offspring going child-free or otherwise dying before they could conceive; and cutting it off at a generational level.
For every out, loud, and proud bigot in Amerikan society, there's two dozen of the vermin under the nearest rotting log. I see it as the older brother to the incel movement; you can ban an incel off every mainstream social media platform on the planet, completely silence him, and he'll still find somewhere to stew with those of like mind. It'd take a catastrophe of size that has never been seen in this country, and a coming together that couldn't be imagined for me to believe that there'd ever be revolutionary potential in a white Amerikan.
Deadicalization when in comes to racist beliefs does exist however it is slow and faulty at best. A mass reeducation is required and you'd need to judge the efficacy of the program while doing it and tweak it as needed when it comes to white Americans. Historically, I'd argue that there has been revolutionary potential in white Americans such as John Brown, Eugene V Debs, United Mine Workers and arguably the Young Patriots Organization. While parts of these organizations and people gave problematic aspects, there has been revolution potential in them. While the present material conditions demand racism and prevent mass revolutionary conscience for America as a whole, a change in material conditions could lead to white Americans becoming a revolutionary group as capitalism does not benefit them as much as socialism would.
I agree with you that most white Americans do not have revolutionary potential now; I disagree with you in that they could with a change in material conditions and that a minority do at present time.
Sorry for the late response. I agree with you that re-education is a much better option because it really solves the problem. However, I totally disagree that white Americans have any chance of carrying out a revolution themselves, just as Western Europeans don't. Their entire revolutionary spirit has been co-opted by fascism. I think the only solution is foreign interference. I said nuke jokingly. I would do it along the lines of the denazification of the DDR.
Can't include the people that Amerikkka already purposely excluded, so they weren't targeted by your comment? Idk how to phrase it better rn.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean
Anyone who isn't white, cis, and heteronormative is excluded to some extent by American society. If they aren't treated as "true" Americans, then you saying you want to nuke Americans would already exclude nuking those that Americans themselves chose to exclude.
I just meant you didn't need to explicitly say you wouldn't also nuke comrades.
Sorry for the late response. What I said was that my initial impulse was to nuke all of Amerikkka, but then I realized that by doing so I would hurt my fellow Americans, which includes the black community, the immigrant community, and the indigenous community. (As for the LGBTQI+ community, I couldn’t include all of them in that category, since being queer isn’t as much of a deterrent to being a Nazi as being part of one of those other communities is.) I ended up writing that I would like Amerikkka to fall as hard as Babylon, which in this case refers to Amerikkka as a country-system, not as a territory. In short, I wouldn’t nuke America, because they’re the ones who like to nuke others. Sorry if my previous comments didn’t make that clear.
No, no, your comments were clear. I was agreeing with you!
I am really sorry my fellow cat, I'm sleepy and I didn't quite understand your previous comment, keep strong. ✊
It's all good.
oh no worries i didnt think you were judging me.
I didn't think you were either. It was just the way I found to confirm that we are very much in sync in this regard.
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That actual racism out on display lmao. Replace white with black, indigenous, Jewish and you’d be banned in a second. You people are fucking deranged.
Reverse racist rhetoric? Where have I ever seen that? Oh, in white supremacists.
Do you know why I would be banned if I exchanged white for absolutely any other ethnicity? Because, historically, it was the white elite that went out to exploit the rest of the world and created racism as a "scientific" justification for doing so. So, for any eventual "oppression" (OMG, the Call Me Mañana on lemmy.ml said that for my country to be fair the majority of the white population would need to die, I'm so scared) against white people be considered racism, you would have to rewrite history (and that's what white supremacists do, by the way).
There is no reverse racism. Being racist against any race is racism.
Sorry for the late response. Unfortunately, it is impossible to be racist against white people in the West, since they are the ones at the top of the racial system here. Still, it is not completely impossible all over the world, my fellow Armenians go through similar oppressions. This is absolutely not the case here. It is just some random guy on the internet saying that freedom of the human race will only be achieved with the end of white people in Amerikkka. Obviously chitchat in response to centuries of oppression, but you had to screw it up.
When colored people enslave white people for centuries and then "free" them by throwing them into a segregationist system, and after much struggle change the laws, but still keep them as second-class citizens in practice, then you will be right to say that a white person suffered racism.
Shut the fuck up cracker
You don't like pasta? Now replace pasta with Jews. That's pretty antisemitic of you.
I'm not judging you. My initial impetus for my comment was to say that I hoped all of Amerikkka would be nuked. Then I remembered my comrades there, including the indigenous people I forgot to mention earlier. We have to give them a fair country...
And maybe that means killing most of the black*** population there.
*** I replaced white with black to hopefully have these people see how deranged they sound.
Replacing words in a way that fundamentally changes an argument fundamentally changes an argument, that is correct.
How is that changing the argument? They are saying they want it murder a race of people, that’s fucked and they should be called out on it.
Just stop with the 'reverse racism' nonsense if you don't want to be called a white supremacist.
Stop calling for the elimination of a race if you don’t want to be called a black supremacist.
Can't be supremacy if we were never once on top. Best case scenario is a "two-state solution", as it were. If you think the Black desire for self-determination and a state away from cracker base, systems, and superstructure is "supremacy", you've got a handful of ignorant microaggressions that it's on you to check.
Address the plank in thine own eye before attending to the splinter in thy neighbor's, peckerwood.
And what if they'd written out the entirety of Mein Kampf instead of what they'd written? Wow that really says something! Makes you think.
Simply don't be part of the most then? There's nothing stopping you from just choosing to be cool right now
Ignoring all historical context and making this bullshit claim is easy. Replace "X" with "Y" is NOT a valid argument.
F=ma is completely a valid equation, replace "F" with "E" (energy) and suddenly is not.
also i loved that guy in disco
Disco Elysium is so good that I even liked the "ultra-liberal" character. Only the fascists (minus René and Measurehead) and the Coalition guys are really impossible to like. But that's because they were so well written.
What's your opinion on
?
Harmless piece of shit, I loved bullying him into paying the highest fine. He's more pitiful than hateful, tough.
But I should add that I wouldn't befriend the Light Bending Rich Guy or the bookseller either.
I would befriend the light bending guy to rob him blind
Taking 100 reál from him doesn't even constitute theft, the contrast in his wealth is so great that he literally bends the light. 100 reál is less than a penny to him. He could have financed the RPG guys until the end, with all their absurd goals, without even feeling it. This kind of "robbery" isn't even satisfactory, since it doesn't cause any damage. And I actually felt terrible taking those 100 reál, because simply pretending to be a liberal is already too much for me. The fact that the game actually counts it as an ultra-liberal speech makes the feeling even worse.
Well your problem is that you aren't stealing enough
Babylon stayed an important center of economy, culture and administration for centuries after its empire was gone. I only wish complete obliteration to the USA. May it split up and never reunite.
It was a major city for nearly 2000 years, and even its fall took 500 years after that.
And was mostly because the rivers moved. It it's place Seleukea-Ctesiphon and then Badgdad afterwards took over.
I plan to divide it into foreign occupation zones among future communist nations, like Germany, but this time done properly (no capitalist part). And then I would keep it that way long enough to de-Nazify it (at least a thousand years).