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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah your are talking about giving off vibes (which apparently gives you plenty of license to “see” what you want in my reply) and we need “unity” (please layout how we can move towards this unity you speak of ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ). Those are not actionable items and it leads to nothing. I was certainly not saying consumers are not to blame but they are the ONLY ones that get the blame and that is systemic. All the abstractions are exactly what fascists want us to focus on. If we could see the forest for the trees we’d know we are the powerful lobby (the people) and we own production etc., but we are conditioned to believe this is “un-American” et al. You can cherry pick anything but when a monsters share of your response is hyperbole, it rings disingenuous and troll-y.

Additionally: the convo you and I are having is a prime example. We are arguing the culture war while losing the class war just by engaging in the ephemera and minutiae of these points. Divided. I dare say you and I wouldn’t be divided if we were engaged in actions not debating in our safe little echo chambers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are not actionable items and it leads to nothing. I was certainly not saying consumers are not to blame but they are the ONLY ones that get the blame and that is systemic.

My dude, I said we actually engage in our actual electoral system as you say the most powerful lobby (the people). The people are slacking, there is apathy nearly 80% of people don't participate in the US mid term primaries. The people only give a fucking shit about the nation's talking head (Executive branch), who is powerful but we lay about and not give a single shit about the legislative branch, the people who actually get most of the work done. They are the ones who confirm supreme court justices, the ones who make the laws, the ones who can handle impeachments. I don't care about your political views, just fucking participate that is literally what we Americans need to do. So many of us don't know whats actually going on. They just listen to their fucking talking heads about the most eye catching headlines while ignoring some of the more important ones like our privacy basically being sold off and being rated out by the devices we use.

I dare say you and I wouldn’t be divided if we were engaged in actions not debating in our safe little echo chambers.

Blind action is wasted action and possibly detrimental to our cause.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m saying the reason they are like that is because they have been fucking groomed to be that way! They have been propagandized. “Hoodwinked. Bamboozled..” I don’t know how else to say it! People don’t vote because they are convinced it doesn’t matter. How did they decide that? How did they form that opinion??? You are just not seeing my point. Love you! Stay frosty! I’m out!