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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, that chance improves if politicians see their voters want it to change and will abandon them if it doesn't

Imagine still believing this

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It's the one saving grace of an electoral system. Politicians have to chase votes. If they don't, they don't get elected. Changing voters minds is the hard part, politicians follow along.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (43 children)

this is why the democrats non-stop browbeat and punch left instead of delivering on policy their constituents want i-love-not-thinking

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

It's the one saving grace of an electoral system. Politicians have to chase votes. If they don't, they don't get elected. Changing voters minds is the hard part, politicians follow along.

Imagine still believing this

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Lol no they don't. Rhetoric chases people's votes, the material outcomes are predetermined by the systems of capital ownership, because the solicitation of donations is still the largest determinate of election outcome (outside of incumbency). Regardless if you win or lose, you have to enact policies that benefit your donors, or potential future donors, and given that we are living in the largest historical wealth gap, the material interests of politicians is to rhetorically chase the populace, but actually enact policies that only benefit the wealthy.

As you have so aptly demonstrated, the absolutely piss-poor political education that people in the U.S. receive insures that we will continue to be taken on the ride again and again.

Also, we don't need to use any thought to reply to you, when you demonstrate so little insight.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they literally don't when all they have to say is "we are better than the other guys" and you morons lap it up and go "next election we will really pressure them for sure"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If there aren't enough people making a noise about what's happening, why would they change? Getting that critical mass is the hard part. Ultimately this system claims to be democratic, so outcomes only changes under sufficient electoral presure.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Politicians have to chase votes

No they fucking don't? You already admited that they will let the republicans do what ever they want and not fight back. Why the hell would they chase votes if you already "have" to vote for them "because there no other choice." What are you going to do? Vote for the republicans? You have no leverage and they own you.

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