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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How the shit does someone not just Lee Harvey Oswald this man already? There've been better men killed for worse reasons.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's mostly right wingers who murder for political reasons. When you know deep down your worldview is a snakepit, that's when you decide to take the law into your own hands like that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

OK so this was Interesting so I dug into it

John Wilkes Booth was part of the Know Nothing Party a left leaning party

Lee Harvey Oswald was a socialist which is left leaning

Both women that shot at Gerald R Ford were part of different left leaning programs

Actually looks like most of the assissinations are done from left leaning individuals. Not that I'm taking sides on that matter just a cursory Google search

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even if thats the case, it implicitly suggests that leftists go after the powerful while rights go after the people. Their peers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

What situation are you thinking of when you think of the right killing their peers for political reasons?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Then why are 99% of mass shooters right wing?

Fuck Putin, by the way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The left is educated enough to know specifically who they want to kill. The right just wants everyone that's not them to die

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since when are mass shooters assassinating political leaders?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What that have to do with the vast majority of mass shooters being right wing lunatics?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Well the thread and comment you replied to was about political assassinations, so what do mass shootings have to do with the conversation at all? You're not wrong, it's just irrelevant here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The point is in current America, Right Wing followers are much, much more likely to enact violence. And they do. With the Right Wing leadership continuously giving arms manufacturers a pass despite almost weekly mass shootings, via Russian bribes funneled through the NRA, it's blatantly obvious they want their followers armed when they finally enact their Right Wing Theocratic Oligarchy. They'll just demonize who they want dead via Right Wing Media (Fox, OAN, NewsMax, Shapiro, Walsh, etc.,) and their perpetually frightened followers will make it happen.

Again, fuck Putin, and any of his Tankie fellators.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

"Well, achly, I'm going to be obtuse and deflect from the actual issue by being pedantic. Checkmate, libcuck! "

You're not smart, or clever.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I think they are pretty well split.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[citation needed]

Considering what these presidents were doing politically when they were assassinated for their politics, this sounds like a mighty convenient narrative for a dogmatically anti-communist state to feed to the populace after the fact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

OK for what one? It's common knowledge about both Lee Harvey Oswald (who went to russia) and John Wilkes Booth. Squeeky fromme (who tried ti shoot Ford) was a member of the Manson cult you can look on Wikipedia for that if you want here is the Wikipedia link for Sara Moore https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Jane_Moore

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting choices. I think the only valid one there would be the second attempt on Gerald Ford (Sara Jane Moore), who wanted to spark a revolution.

The first attempt on him was by one of the Mason Family (Lynette Fromme), who were sometimes described as hippies, but were also keen on bringing about a race war.

John Wilkes Booth seems surprising to call left leaning, as he was pro-confederacy and angry about the abolition of slavery.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Soviet defector, and did indeed call himself a socialist. However there's the whole probable scenario that he wasn't actually the shooter and never went on trial.

To mention other presidential assassinations, there's Charles J. Guiteau, assassin of President James A. Garfield, who was a loyal republican, but felt he was personally wronged by the President (as well as mental illness).

Leon Czolgosz, assassin of President William McKinley would probably support your hypothesis more than the others, as an anarchist.

All in all, not really overwhelmingly left leaning.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think your confused. The abolition of slavery was a right wing thing.

The want to have a slaves was left wing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No. "Republican" does not equal "Right wing". Maybe in the modern context, but political parties evolve and shift on the left right scale over time. The Republican party was originally established as a less Conservative opposition to the Democrats.

Besides, the policial party pushing for the thing is surely much less important than the thing itself. The act of enslaving a portion of the population, based entirely on racial divisions, is an extremely right wing position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is enslaving a race a right wing thing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Racism isn't inherently a political issue and isn't the whole story of slavery, but is a major factor when talking about enslaving a race. However, its close relationship to other major factors like colonialism, nationalism, supremacism and xenophobia, as well as financial structures allowing such enslavement and ownership, are all found well to the right of the spectrum.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Ironically it's also extremely left wing position.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not digging it back up but I've seen a lot of evidence that is exact opposite to what you're concluding.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I don't have time. The problem is that academics do not want to be seen as making a political statement so you have to find a particular type of source.

I've definitely seen and fact checked lists of terrorist acts aside their committers' political leanings. Most of them are right wingers, in the US at least. That's been true since at least the 80s

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

If the assassination of Julius Caesar became a model for the effective removal of a tyrant, it was also a powerful reminder that getting rid of a tyrant did not necessarily dispose of tyranny.

-Dame Mary Beard

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

21st century custom would seem to suggest a limited yield warhead delivered via FPV drone, whilst another recon drone films both.

Yes, the required moral barrier warranting it has long been cleared... It was past deserved back in the central park five days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You talk as if being an evil politician is a predictor of being assassinated. That’s 100% the opposite of how that works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it's the good ones that get murdered by people like trump and his dumb followers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yes. It’s the good ones who are assassinated. And no not by Trump. Not by Presidents. By hidden people you haven’t heard of.