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I trust Trump about as far as I can throw him, and at the end of the day it's really the Pentagon calling the shots here not the POTUS.

But dudes clearly speaking to a public sentiment here.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Trump is the nominal antiwar position

Trump isn't anti-war, or at least I don't trust him to be actually anti-war. He's anti-this-war, but his administration did plenty of hawkish shit towards Iran and Venezuela. I'm not even confident he'll actually do anything to deescalate in Ukraine, I think it's all bluster.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not to mention he ramped up drone strikes 400% more than obama

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

one of the few things I'm willing to give Biden credit for - he stopped the drone strikes

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

same here. and I have never heard a liberal mention it

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did he really, or did he just change who's using them?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your counterpoint was valid when the Saudis were bombing Yemen, but ever since that wound down, there are legit less bombings.

Still not voting Biden, but I just believe in giving credit where it's due.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even if there's fewer bombs, it just means that those military strategies are no longer viable for US interests. It's not a moral stance, but a geopolitical one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I agree. No interest in defending Genocide Joe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Exactly, especially that the drones were proven to be vulnerable to anyone who have an actual military and is willing to oppose USA for real, like Russia, Iran or even Yemen (and unlike Pakistan or Iraq).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Wow. Credit where credit's due. I didn't know this.

Source

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

At this point basically every influental politician in US is just Holden Bloodfeast

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, he's anti this war because he thinks it's time to cash in and start the next war.