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Of course, they can't say "war criminal Donald Trump" because that would then invite people to call Biden a war criminal too

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (103 children)

It's the part where he actively committed the felonies to increase his chances of winning the 2016 election, that's what seems egregious to some.

He literally engaged in election fraud, the thing he screams about. He's been convicted of it.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (28 children)

Standard boilerplate election fraud, committed stupidly < an actual straight up genocide

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (11 children)

The Israel vs Palestine genocide has been ongoing for 75+ years. I do not approve, and my approval has never been sought. Election fraud is something that trump claimed was happening in our jurisdiction while committing (and attempting) it in 2016 & 2020.

If we're talking about war crimes aka continuing the genocide supplies, trump promised to cause more and seek retribution, not peace.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

THE ISRAEL VS PALESTINE GENOCIDE? FUCKING EXCUSE YOU?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

liberals and both-sidesing genocide. name a better combo

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Israel and Palestine have been involved in conflicts for an extended period, yes. Much longer than you've been alive.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

Excuse you, your keyboard seems broken.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

You can't be both evil and condescending, pick one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

smuglord

Don't frame the "conflict" where one side unilaterally decided it was entitled to the other's land, chased off hundreds of thousands of people from their homes, built settlements in their place, routinely bombing remaining indigenous populations and operating a brutal miltary occupation where said indigenous population are second class citizens with no autonomy in their own land, as some kind of even handed conflict. It's genocide. The fact that you could come up with a justification for supporting your government in assissting this genocide is repulsive. It doesn't matter that withholding your vote is indirectly supporting Trump, giving your vote to Biden is directly supporting genocide, which is a much larger issue than the political differences between 2 people that more or less believe the same thing but have parties that point them in slightly different directions. Trump or no Trump, you'll still get fascism, you'll still not have abortion access in a ton of states, you'll still have crumbling bridges, exploited migrant workers whose kids are being separated in concentration camps at the border, trans people being denied healthcare, and leftists being arrested explicitly on political grounds.

If you want to make the world a better place you'd do a hell of a lot better to not vote at all, and spend the time volunteering.

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