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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So let me get this straight. Somehow you think that if Clinton went left she'd gain more progressives but NOT lose conservatives/moderates/independents? That is just not the way it works. tl;dr they are trying to thread the needle.

The difference between an R win and a D win comes down to how many progressives actually show up

No, it comes down to how many voters vote for one or the other. As in all voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think she/Biden/Dems would gain more progressives than they would lose conservatives/moderates/independents... absolutely. The types of people who vote for Clinton/Biden ALWAYS vote... And they sure as shit aren't going to vote for Trump or even stay home. They will vote for whoever is the Dem nominee every time. Which means a progressive would also get those votes. Maybe, big maybe, some of the more conservative Dems would choose Trump over Bernie, but I highly doubt it.

So everyone who would vote for Biden, would also vote for Bernie, but not everyone who would vote for Bernie would vote for Biden. The math isn't that hard.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think she/Biden/Dems would gain more progressives than they would lose conservatives/moderates/independents… absolutely.

You think. Despite not having any data, not doing any real research and not being familiar with how campaigns are run.

So everyone who would vote for Biden, would also vote for Bernie

Pure speculation not borne out by the 2016 election results.

The math isn’t that hard.

You aren't doing math. You are going with your gut and guessing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The 2016 primary has nothing to do with what's happening now (other than Clinton getting us into this whole mess with her arrogance and hubris).

The report you linked to shows what I'm saying. You should give it a read sometime. As I did... Weeks ago... Because I do plenty of research. I'm familiar with how campaigns are run.

You really think there's millions of people out there on the fence between Biden and Trump? Like "I know I'm going to vote, but I just can't decide who I like better, Trump or Biden".. or maybe you think there's tons of people who are like "I'll definitely vote for Biden because Trump is such a threat, but if it was someone like Bernie, no way, suddenly Trump doesn't seem like that much of a threat." That just doesn't exist. The people on the fence this election are deciding whether or not to show up at all. If they show up they'll vote against Trump, but the more they can believe in who they're voting for the more likely they are to actually show up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The report you linked to shows what I’m saying

No it doesn't. And instead of explaining why you think that you just keep goin on and on repeating the same speculation

Have a nice day.

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