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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (16 children)

WOW, I love that you're argument in favor of states rights is "sure women in all these states completely lost their bodily autonomy, but I'm not a woman so I think it's the way to go!"

Watch him respond with "if they don't like it they can just move to a state with abortions" as if poverty and other mechanisms that restrict mobility don't exist. Absolutely WILD!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (15 children)

WOW, I love that you're argument in favor of states rights is "sure women in all these states completely lost their bodily autonomy, but I'm not a woman so I think it's the way to go!"

Well, I certainly didn't write that. At all. In fact, it seems you didn't read what I wrote at all. The only way to guarantee abortion rights for all women in all 50 states is a constitutional amendment, an amendment that is very unlikely to pass. So, what do you propose?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

You literally used the fact that states are currently undoing abortion access in your argument that you support states right to choose!

Edit here are some quotes, all I removed was rambling

The third option is we split up, and go our separate ways. Personally, I prefer the third option, and I think it's already happening.

Take abortion, for instance. The overturning of Roe v Wade didn't make abortion illegal throughout the whole country, it simply returned the matter to the states.

But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think it's better to have a weaker federal government and for more power to be returned to the states

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Sure, some people are still property. But that decision is made at the state level, so it's all good."

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You folks keep putting words in my mouth. I never said that a decision automatically becomes morally right when it is made at the state level instead of the federal level. I never said that restricting abortion access was right or good.

I really would like an answer from someone about how you all would make abortion legal in all 50 states. Please, my all means tell me. If that is the only acceptable option to you, how do you think it can be accomplished?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Pass a law that medical decisions are between a patient and a doctor. You claim it needs to be an amendment, but there's no reason for that.

Your entire premise seems to be capitulating to fascism because you're afraid it can't be stopped at the federal level. Do you really think "some fascism at the state level" would be a peaceful solution in the long term?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Pass a law that medical decisions are between a patient and a doctor.

They tried passing a law to make abortion legal in all 50 states. It was called the Women's Health Protection Act. It was defeated in the Senate, twice. I'm sure they'll keep trying, but even if they succeed the law will be challenged and I think it's likely the current supreme court would overturn it. Plus, laws passed by one Congress can be repealed by another Congress. The only way to guarantee abortion rights in all 50 states would be to amend the constitution.

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