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From the photos on twitter, it looks like it hit the only soccer field in town, landing between the field and the playground next to it. Hezbollah first claimed the attack, but now that there are 10 kids dead, and another several dozen kids injured they've backpedaled on it.

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UPDATE: 10 dead, 6 in critical, 3 moderate, 4 light, and several dozen unadmitted injured people

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Both the escalation on the southern Lebanon border and the resulting displacement have received a lot of media coverage. Hezbollah has kept saying that this is to keep IDF from being all focused on Gaza and that they would stop if a ceasefire is reached. Until about three month ago both Israel and Hezbollah have been trying to keep the level of escalation low.

This has changes as Israel attacked Beirut and threatened to turn it into "another Gaza" and boasting about how they could destroy all of Lebanon. Netanyahus government has aimed to escalate the war there, to draw in the US and other western allies.

Now whether we will see the full escalation now remains to be seen. Hezbollah is a whole different league compared to Hamas in terms of weapons and fighters.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How is Hezbollah attacking Israel 'to keep them busy' supposed to keep things from escalating?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The level of engagement remained on the low and the "unwritten rules of engagement" like keeping things within a few kilometers of the border used to be upheld by both IDF and Hezbollah

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So as long as Hezbollah is only shelling those 100.000 people living closest to the border, Israel should consider it a friendly ping-pong match?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I fail to see your point. There is more displaced Lebanese and much more Lebanese killed by Israel since Oct. 7. Considering displacement overall, adding in the 2 million displaced in Gaza, the attempt to put the blame on Hezbollah fails completely.

On September 1 1939 Germany invaded Poland. On September 3, France, the UK and other UK affiliated states declared war on Germany. I hope it is obvious, that this does not put the blame of escalation on France and the UK.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So if you start shitting in my front yard, and in response I start shitting in yours, you're saying the blame falls on me because after a few days you have more shit in your yard?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are conviently forgetting the whole aspect that it isnt your yard, but you stole it by murdering and driving out the family that used to live there. Now some of that family is in my house and other parts of the family are in the house next over, that you are currently setting on fire.

So yeah, that is you escalating shit in that analogy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I see you've moved on from "totally not escalating friendly shelling across the border" to "simplified one-sided recording of complicated history so actually everything they do is totally ok"

If that's your real argument, why even bother to start with the other?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hezbollah started limited attacks after Israel starting bombing Gaza. That was the level of engagement for many months. The understanding to keep it at that level changed with Israel escalating into Syria and Lebanon more and more, as well as the total annihilation they bring on Gaza.

You don't need to look at all of the "conflict". However the fundamentals are not complicated. Israel is a settler colonial state. It is found on and will be completed by genocide and ethnic cleansing of the population it is stealing the land from. This is what happened in what is today the US. This is what France tried in Algeria. And you find this again and again throughout human history.

You can engage in all sorts of debates as to who has shot first at what point, but this fundamental structure of the situation does not change.

Hezbollah made it clear they don't want an escalation and the way to end the fighting and the border is by Israel ending the genocide in Gaza. The same goes for the regime in Iran, which had to respond to Israels assault on the embassy, but they did so in a matter to show force, without causing relevant damage. The one escalating is Netanyahu, who hopes to draw all of the west into a total war in the middle east, because the support for his genocide is dwindling.

It is the mindset of a schoolyard bully, that always picks fights, to then call on his bigger brother to defend him. It would be funny, if it wouldnt be a genocidal maniac, that is set to put the lives of hundreds of millions of people at risk.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As I said, you are in part driven by a simplified view of a complicated conflict. You might want to read up on some history to find out why jews chose to leave their homes in Russia, Europe, Northern-Africa and the Ottoman Empire to congregate in one small part of the latter, where some of them already lived. That's a bit different from, let's say, Morocco walking into the Western Sahara to plant their flag.

Iran is shipping munitions into Lebanon, which are then fired across the border on Israeli villages, but it's only escalation if they shoot back?

That's the mindset of the schoolyard bully that keeps spitting on someone and then says the other kid 'escalated' by kicking him in the nuts

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can't go in and kill people and take their homes and land because Europe didn't want to deal with their antisemitism. I love how every attempt to defend Israel through history always comes out worse. Imagine if I invited my family to come over and take my neighbor's house because someone completely unrelated to my neighbors was mean to them. The existence of nations like the US and the fact that Israel has some of the most dual citizenships in the world disproves the fact that they need their own ethnostate anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Why would you only talk about Europe and forget about Russia, the Middle East and Northern Africa?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago

Terrorist logic. Israel exists so everything they do is O-Tay