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[–] [email protected] 229 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (27 children)

They barely even fact checked him in the first place. They called him on a total of, what, three things? As opposed to the probably dozens of other complete untruths he uttered, not even just about policy and so forth but actual empirically verifiable elements of reality?

Here's just what I spotted:

  • Lied about not being involved with Project 2025 and not knowing what it is. We know he is acutely aware of what it is, and in fact some members of his staff were involved in its framing.
  • Lied about the number of immigrants coming into the country.
  • Further lied stating that other countries were "sending all their criminals and mental patients."
  • Claimed people were "aborting" babies after birth (called out by moderators).
  • Claimed Harris said she would ban fracking in Pennsylvania (called out by Harris).
  • Lied about crime rates going "through the roof" (called out by moderators).
  • Responded to this by claiming FBI crime stats were falsified by "leaving out problem cities."
  • Lied about migrants eating people's pets (called out by moderators).
  • Lied about inflation numbers post-pandemic.
  • Lied claiming that "Biden" built the Nordstream pipeline.
  • Distorted the truth by claiming he won more votes than any sitting president in the last election, failing to mention that Biden still got more.

There were probably others.

He also essentially admitted that his plan for the war in Ukraine was to just let Russia win. That should be pretty damn worrisome for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I wish they had pushed him harder on the simple yes or no questions.

Also, Harris missed a perfect opportunity to point out that Trump has been the only president that has advocated a gun ban. "take the guns and figure out due process later"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The yes/no about "should Ukraine win the war" he wouldn't answer anything except that he would end the war. He would just give up Ukraine to Russia to end it, though, and he didn't want to say that on TV.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He loves backstabbing allies. He's a dishonorable man.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The Kurds remember.

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