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F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.

Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

God can we please leave this weird obsession with circumcision on reddit? You're not wrong, it's just such a weird thing to focus on all the goddamn time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a bodily autonomy issue that has justifiably left a lot of men feeling powerless and angry. People are gonna talk about it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's a dick topic of extremely minimal consequence in the grand scheme that just makes spaces like this looks like a bunch of dick-obsessed weirdos complaining because their dicks are too small.

Like I said, you're not wrong on the topic, it's just being so focused on the topic in the first place is fucking weird.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s a dick topic of extremely minimal consequence in the grand scheme

I disagree. I think this country has a problem with respecting bodily autonomy, and a large part of that is men trying to legislate women's bodies. Showing these men that they have a horse in the bodily autonomy race so to speak is a good thing. Maybe it's only a minimal effect, but it's a potential pathway out of harmful beliefs.

this looks like a bunch of dick-obsessed weirdos complaining because their dicks are too small.

it’s just being so focused on the topic in the first place is fucking weird.

I've been on lemmy for about a year now. And this one off handed thread is the only place I've seen this topic discussed, in the entirety of this last year. I think you are vastly overstating the frequency to which this is discussed.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To the first point, I'd argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.

To the second point, it has come up a few times, but yes, the reason I said "leave this on reddit" was preemptive, before the problem migrates here from reddit where the topic is rampant is insanely zealous most often.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.

I think we'd have to take a poll from the general population and compare it with a poll from an anti-circumcision group and compare it to be sure.

Regardless, I said it was a pathway, not a guarantee.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think we'd have to take a poll from the general population and compare it with a poll from an anti-circumcision group and compare it to be sure.

My guy, please be for fucking real right now. There is a difference between an unfounded claim and an outlandish one. If I said "all of the smartest people on earth believe Poland borders Peru," we wouldn't need a study or poll to confirm I was full of shit, we could just reasonably deduce it. Likewise we don't need a survey to tell us that any man who genuinely tried to bring up circumcision as tantamount in the abortion conversation would be rightly laughed out of serious consideration.

Again, I acknowledge you aren't wrong and I will acknowledge both abortion and circumcision exist under the same very broad umbrella of bodily autonomy, but frankly the scale and scope of the two are so wildly and enormously different as to instantly render any attempts at comparison moot.

And honestly, I really think that you know this too. I truly believe that if you can divorce yourself from your personal investment in this topic, you will also see what an absurd comparison that is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

any man who genuinely tried to bring up circumcision as tantamount in the abortion conversation would be rightly laughed out of serious consideration.

The point has sailed over your head. At no point did I say they were tantamount. I said they are relevant to each other, because they're both problems dealing with bodily autonomy.

but frankly the scale and scope of the two are so wildly and enormously different as to instantly render any attempts at comparison moot.

I never said otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does talking about dicks make you uncomfortable?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not in the slightest. I'll happily talk dicks with you all day; I'm extremely sexually liberal.

But talking about dicks isn't the same as listening to a bunch of chud weirdos whining and crying about the world's least consequential issue that's they're only mad about because deep down they ignorantly think their tiny dicks would be bigger if they hadn't had their foreskins stolen.

Again, it's just a weird fucking thing to focus on. Bring it up when the topic comes up, of course, but to fucking insert it in conversations as if it's relevant, as was done in this post, will always be weird.

But hey, if you wanna talk about dicks for fun, I'm game. Mine curves slightly to the left, how about you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Some of us think consent is not a topic of "extremely minimal consequence".