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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Stop.

Recognize the tactical political exigencies that exist here. Understand that there actually are a meaningful number of republicans who are NOT, in fact, down with fascism, and that this is them trying to stop the fascists from gaining power.

To be clear: they’re not our friends. But we DO share a mutual enemy that is very likely an existential threat to both of us.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, Dick Cheney and the Raegan Administration. The pinnacle of morality. It seems people are really ok with brushing off what Cheney and W did with the supreme court and there election against Al Gore. They just did it in a more formal way than Orange Hitler tried to do.

These people not too long ago were singing praises to the Trump administration. How can you not furl your brow at the endorsement of Kamala. This is just a strategic game for these ghouls.

As I have said in other replies the writing is on the wall for their party. When the Democrats win I will not be surprised with the mass exodus for these people to the Democratic party.

I'm simply throwing out concerns I have had with these endorsements and all I have been told so far is to stop or that I am stupid. No one has given me concrete reasons as to why these fears are invalid.

Again nowhere have I said "don't vote for Kamala". I understand the sense of urgency people are feeling. However, this is just putting off the problem. Voting for Kamala does not end the right's thirst for facisism.

Kamala wins. What about the election 4 years after? Or 4 years after that? People are tired of nothing changing for them, do you really think that momentum is going to be quelmed? Do you really think less and less people will be not exhausted? Facisism is an ongoing battle but there is clear messaging on the wall for attacks that could cripple it deep.

I mean Jesus Christ Medicaid for all would surely make people think twice about voting for the party that didn't give it to them. That's one of the most popular issues that could give Democrats a slam dunk for years to come. Are they interested in that? Absolutely not.

I have yet to here any slam dunk policies from the Harris campaign besides " project 2025 bad mmmmkay" which is a given at this point.

It seems also people forget Kamala's original campaign promises and how swiftly she has tried to distance herself from them. Which is fucking disappointing.

These are the same people that fear mongered us into Afghanistan and Iraq for their own personal gain. What makes you think they aren't doing it here?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Holy fuck, dude. I’m not defending them or their ideology. I never will. I categorically disagree with them on the vast majority of their positions. But right now they and we share an existential threat. If you want to ignore that… welll, you do you, but I’m not going to let perfect (or in this case, deeply flawed in a lot of important ways) be the enemy of objective good. And here, “objective good” is “not letting the fascists win”.