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Under US procurement rules, every dollar is to be spent for designated material. In this case, probably for Iron Dome rocket motors which the US supplies. So far this year Hezbolah has launched 8,000 iranian rockets into Isreal, yesterday 300. To object to this is to leave the citizens of Isreal defenseless.
Because Israel is an impoverished nation which can't terrorise others without the US's funding?
So, there's a vote to leave them defenseless.
You're a joke.
Really? So you don't want to leave them defenseless?
You guys really are a bunch of cowards.
You're the coward for wanting to bomb civilians in the name of defense. Don't hide behind morals.
Well if you think what the Israeli do is morally wrong, then leaving them defenseless so they can be bombarded is morally wrong as well. But, don't let me stop you from proving that logic. Please proceed.
Israel is capable of defending themselves. Nobody is asking to leave them defenseless. All everyone is asking is for an end to the bombing of gaza, and now even Lebanon.
Without the proper tools, defense is impossible. You are not everyone, though you play like you are. You simply want Israelis to die.
I don't think it's so clear what some of the money is going to. From the article:
With Hezbollah launching rockets towards civilians, I am in favor of strengthening the Iron Dome. But it sounds like that $3.5 billion could be to resupply Israel for their attacks on Gaza, thereby enabling new ones.
If it is earmarked for purely defensive equipment, it still indirectly funds their genocide by freeing up other money for it.
It also emboldens their attacks because they know there's less chance of successful counter-attack
"essential wartime procurement” indicates material that has previously supplied. This could be anything from bombs to training.
Israel legally can't get any US aid or arms. Period. It's not ambiguous and maybe if they're left defenseless they'll consider maybe treating the people they're oppressing as... people.
So, let's not cower in the corner...are you voting to leave the Israeli citizens defenseless?
Yes, exactly. Support for their defense is the same as support for their offense from a simple economic point of view. Your logic stops working when trying to wipe a small country's worth of people out.
You are no better than those that murdered and took hostages on October 7th.
This didn't start on October 7... Look at the hasbara shill everyone!
Look at the guy who wants more death of innocent people. Nothing innocent here. If figures that you would want defenseless people because you don't have the courage to assault anyone else
Israel just bombed Beruit for 11 hours straight yesterday. Thats ridiculous! And while they were bombing Beruit, people in Tel Aviv were celebrating. You don't see any of this as an Israeli land grab??
Sure, and the Lebanese danced in the street when they found out Nasrallah was dead. So what is your point?
Wait, I can cite a video of the Israelis dancing in Tel Aviv. Can you cite a video of the Lebanese people dancing in Beirut?
Edit: https://x.com/8zal/status/1839977600053121140?t=7QnUDXOpkqFxjqQWyTT70w&s=19
Yep, same old playbook. I provide it, you say you don't believe it because it's propaganda. The only people who morn Nasrallah is Iran and western communist students. Kind of funny really. But, you still haven't made a point.
But... You didn't provide it. Also, you can't really speak for me as far as what my response would be to a video of people in Beruit dancing after Nasrallah's death.
So I ask again, do you have a video of the Lebanese people dancing after Nasrallah's death?
Edit: if you grab that video from 2017, I'll provide proof of it's origin, btw.
Edit 2: actually, I'll just eliminate that option for you. Here it is.
https://x.com/OmarBaddar/status/1839986430157758648?t=R0AH-zVk9DGQgb9ivE17_Q&s=19
Still waiting on proof of your claims. Remember, I'm asking for video proof of Lebanese people dancing in Beruit at news of Nasrallah's death.
I don't provide it because I don't play your games. Suffice to say that Hezbollah has killed more Lebanese and Syrians than Isreal ever did.
It isn't a game, Rapidcreek. you can keep your blindfold on and your ears plugged up though. 💋
Hey! I found how the Lebanese people actually reacted when they heard the news.
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1840149090577068266?t=lWjItIycLWYp1vxnEAH78Q&s=19
If ever there was a genocide sympathizing, Zionist IOF shill, it would be a bloodthirsty guy like Slowbrook. We would all do well to ignore your comments and fight for what's truely right.
Yeah, you sicken us.
Your mask slipped there, it's supposed to be isreals defense this is for, not the genocide of the gazans!
Uh... Okay I guess.
Yes. They're currently engaged in massive war crimes, including the use of starvation as a weapon as identified by the US State Department. They are absolutely ineligible for military aid.
But they aren't actually defenseless. They still have the most sophisticated military in the region.
Then you are no better than those that murderer on Oct9ber 7th and took hostages. Congratulations
And don't forget karma
Yes, withholding weapons from people murdering civilians is directly analogous to murdering civilians yourself.
Perfect logic. Unassailable.
Defenseless people where just what those Hamas wanted on Oct 7th. It seems you want the same thing.
FFS thinking that Israel is commuting Genocide and that you'd rather not fund that sn't the same thing at all as condoning Hamas's Oct attack. You are making the most ridiculous false equivalence
FFS it's not false, it is a moral equivalence. Both of you want to terrorize innocent people
How do I want to terrorize innocent people? I think you should give up talking to people if you're so incapable of listening
Ever been under a missile attack? If you're lucky you get a warning. Then you move your family to your homes safest place and wait. You either hear a boom or you don't. And if you do, you tell your family to wait because there might be another one. It's terrifying. Of course, it's more frightening when you don't get a warning and your neighbors house just blows up.
How do I want to terrorize innocent people? I think you should give up talking to people if you're so incapable of listening
To deny them defense. Not a hard concept.
Please point out where I said that
There's a BIG difference between defense system (iron dome) and offensive system (MOABs).
I agree
Maybe Israel should pull itself up by its bootstraps and get a second job
That's a hilarious assumption when we've done this with everything up to and including 2,000 pound dumb bombs in the last year.
I actually read the article. Did you?
Israel can kill children with someone else's tax dollars; not ours
But they're not under this allocation and you know it. Yet you are sad and need to throw red meat to anyone that will listen.