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Trump has vowed to be a ‘dictator’ on day one. With this day now coming, what exactly will he do?
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You missed a few.
No way he makes Cannon AG, that's a job that requires actual competence to get anything done. See also: Merrick Garland.
He's going to give Cannon Thomas's spot on the Supreme Court in 6-12 months when he announces his retirement.
See also Bill Barr.
You think Trump gives a shit if she does anything beyond sit there and play with herself all day? She's there to take his orders and that's it.
Though I do agree, a SCOTUS seat is also a very real possibility. But she's getting one or the other.
Grinding the DoJ to a halt isn't the goal this time. He needs someone competent enough to wield the agency like a hammer in order to go after rivals and punish dissidents. He may not be smart enough to pick which candidate can actually achieve that, but failure will be noticed.
But a pardon is not an absolution. To accept a pardon you also accept the crime that you did.
How cute......you think that norms still apply.
Trump will self-pardon, say he did nothing wrong, and pardon the J6 rioters unconditionally. And the same Congress who spent the day in a basement fearing for their own lives will stand up and applaud, and the Supreme Court will rubber stamp it with one hand while fellating him with the other.
This is the Trump revenge tour 2.0. Trump does what he wants, and everybody just bends the law around it. Traditional norms are simply ignored. If you think it was bad last time, you ain't seen nothing yet.
He won't pardon the insurrectionists. He already got what he wanted out of them. He doesn't pay bills he owes to the little guy.
That doesn't matter a bit to people who have no principles.
Yeah, but he and his supporters don’t understand that technicality or gaf about it.
He is already a felon do you think he or his constituents care?
As long as Trump doesn't see the inside of a cell I don't think he, or his supporters, will care about that piece of the pardon.
I bet he won't pardon the Jan 6. rioters since that doesn't do anything for him. He already won with them in jail and without their votes, there's nothing more he needs from them.
Disagree. Pardoning the J6 rioters now "proves" that he "has their back." That way, if/when he needs another group of rioters to be at his beck and call, they'll gladly oblige. Especially if he pre-pardons them.
They'd do it again regardless.
Yeah, he doesn’t like them, but he recognizes their value and loyalty. He’ll take steps to encourage that loyalty. It’s always useful for an authoritarian leader to have an unofficial paramilitary force they can call on to do… things.
Trump had two weeks to pre-pardon them in 2021 and didn't. 71 million people just voted for Trump this time around. If 0.01% of them are crazy rioters, that's 7100 people at his disposable. He doesn't need an additional few hundred who already went to jail and had their life turned upside down, and may not still be loyal.
Oh I'm not saying he gives half a shit about them. But pardoning them is a gesture that ensures that the 7100 people at his disposal knows that he has their back, while costing Trump exactly nothing. Trump won't do it out of any care for the J6ers, but because he'll still benefit from it.
Really dark, but logical.
The good news is we’ll get a Supreme Court decision on the president pardoning himself. The bad news is we have a president who believes laws don’t apply to him and it will be decided by a court of judges whom he mainly picked, and I’m sure will not see the need to recuse themselves due to any conflict of interest
We’re going to get a Supreme Court who says a sitting president can’t go to jail for any crime, including the state felonies he’s been convicted of that he can’t self pardon.
and who have already ruled that he is all but immune from prosecution.
You forgot fire every single civil servant and install loyal idiots disband the department of education the department of health the weather channel pretty much everything that we've grown to appreciate.
Oh and also completely roll back every single social advancement made since the new deal.
Suspend habeus corpus, declare strikes illegal, nationalize power grids and other basics. Require national ID cards to make purchases, probably require an oath to Trump to get one...
Don't say "Viva la resistance".
No nationalization. All public services will be gutted and sold to cronies.
#9 will actually be Putin’s Dirty Sanchez
So his first term all over again.
Except with teeth this time... The rich are going to use to dismantle the government
They have been working on that since Reagan, if not before. It does look like they are on the home stretch now.
The folks making the decisions this time around are the very ones from the Reagan administration that couldn't do what they wanted....