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“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In Nebraska

Uh, that's your answer. It's not a magic incantation to win regardless of the odds, but in a presidential election that's by default 50/50?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

If the problem was that democrats did not support the working class enough then why didn’t the union leader win? This isn’t magic or rocket science. Many people thought democrats were responsible for the high inflation because they don’t know macro economics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

It’s not a magic incantation to win regardless of the odds

Sorry, I guess I should have said this twice. You don't win Nebraska just by touching up the progressive message a little. Propaganda still exists, party loyalty still exists, racism still exists. But he did a hell of a lot better than any slow and steady liberal candidate would do. And in races that aren't in deep red states, doing better is enough to win.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If the problem was that democrats did not support the working class enough then why didn’t the union leader win?

He had the albatross of a poor up-ballot candidate around his neck. Same reason most Democrats lost: The party didn't get people to go out and vote because they didn't appeal to workers, which hurt every candidate that wasn't Republican.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Voters are literally saying it was because of inflation during Biden presidency.

Democrats lost because they planned to tax the billionaire class so the billionaires funded the campaign against them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Except Democrats outspent Republicans by a large margin. This wasn't an election lost from a lack of donations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Donations are on the books. Things like Elon Musk buying votes are not on the books. The billionaire class did not want Harris to tax them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think what’s missing is the anger. Trump can tap into anger. Bernie could also. The independent didn’t have the base of anger that the GOP did

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Anger definitely motivated some but I know many moderates that were convinced democrats were responsible for the inflation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

But they were right! Dems did contribute to inflation (not as much as Trump but still)…Student loan forgiveness not explicitly tied to higher taxes on rich and corps, cutting back on subsidies to defense, oil, and corn syrup, while also not breaking up monopolies which create an environment of price gouging gave merit to the “democrats give out free cash and devalue it all”

Democrats did cause inflation. They did it by not clipping the wings of our oligarchs when supplying aid.

Biden kept his promise “nothing will fundamentally change” and the American electorate unimpeachably rejected it.

The main thing with Sanders campaign was it didn’t feel like a “democrats” vs “republicans”

It was us vs the billionaires

But the DNC could never bear to alienate their biggest donors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Biden was calling out price gouging throughout his whole presidency.

Harris lost this election because she said she was going to tax the billionaires and so they funded the campaign against her.

For you to throw her under the bus after the billionaires campaigned against her is just going to ensure no future politicians will challenge the billionaire class again.