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Summary

Many Democrats, especially women, expressed disillusionment and frustration online, viewing the result as a reflection of deep-seated misogyny in the U.S.

Harris supporters highlighted anger that a “felony convicted, twice-impeached” Trump prevailed over a female candidate.

Comparisons to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss resurfaced, with many attributing Trump’s win to targeted appeals to young men, including appearances with influencers like Joe Rogan.

The election outcome has intensified concerns over growing right-wing radicalization among young men.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

It's really beyond time for this sort of disinformation to fuck off.

Harris lost because she's a neoliberal, full stop. Scapegoating it as sexism means you learned fucking nothing and will only keep losing.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

If you think sexism wasn't a significant part of this, I don't know what to tell you. Of course it was. Biden wasn't better than her in any way and he won against Trump. Despite the fact that practically no one was excited to vote for him. It's baffling you're even questioning this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Biden wasn't better, Trump's issues were just more in the forefront of people's minds. They asked themselves "do I want more of this" and said no. Since then there have been rose colored glasses that make people think he was good for the economy and they've forgotten the chaos. And now the "do I want more of this" question is moving against the Democrats and a candidate that was reticent to truly separate herself from "this".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Not really what happened. Trump kept basically the same voters. As has been pointed out 5000 times, this election was lost because millions of Democratic voters stayed home. One of the primary reasons, which is slapping us in the face, is her gender. There simply isn't a world where sexism exists where this wouldn't have played a not-small role.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who wasn't fully aware that Trump is the worst candidate ever... Is to dumb to have made it to a polling station.

They all wanted a rapist in the White House.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Is to dumb to have made it to a polling station

I agree with you, but can't pass up calling out the irony here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Whether sexism was an important part of it or not isn't the point.

The point is that if we allow that statement to pass unchallenged, it will take over the narrative, none of the necessary reforms will happen, and the world will continue to get worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Right we can only talk about one thing. Fair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

We can talk about the one thing that's important, or we can talk about mostly-irrelevant bullshit that not only fails to solve the problem, but actively works against solving it by serving as a distraction. I mean, if you just fucking love failure and losing for some reason, I guess you could do the latter, but why?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Any sane adult should have beat Trump. He won because 72 million Americans want fascism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

no, he won because 20 million Americans played chicken in Americas only car and we fucking lost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I kinda think the 73 million who voted R might be the bigger problem here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

they are a problem, but terrible people will be terrible and nothing will change that.

20 million voters figuratively said, "no, fuck you we want nothing to do with this system." even though they are literally a part of the system.

it's like negotiating with a toddler. ˢᵐᵃˡˡ world view with BIG ambitions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Half of the reason government exists is to stop terrible people from being terrible. Religion is supposed to reign in the terrible people too, American Evangelicalism just creates terrible people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago

yeah.... Government exists to control the society. They say the government is the will of the people, but that's been a lie historically for many, many, many years.

Religion is the antithesis of government. Religion is meant to control the will of the people. to direct it and hone it to a fine point.

Historically, if you look at the impact that religion had on systems of government, you can see that there's definitely a negative impact where one becomes weaker.

The point being, both systems of government and religion are tools in which to control the fate of man. The reason why American Evangelicalism creates terrible people is because there are terrible people leading American Evangelicals.

And the reason why the American system of government supports terrible people is because it was modified to support terrible people. The same terrible people leading American evangelicals.

If we had any hope in making impactful change, it would have started with education.

Now, my fear is it's too late for education. And what comes next will be horrific.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

Once all the smart, wealthy, moral, and ethical people flee the US that can flee the US do flee the US I'll finally be able to get a job!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Completely agree, but I’ve been seeing so many similar sentiments on Lemmy since the election. Today I saw someone comment, almost word for word, that there was no problem with Kamala’s campaign - the issue was simply that Americans are too stupid. Someone else on a totally different post commented that this election proves the Dems could run Jesus Christ himself and half the country would still reject him. And those are just two examples. This is one of more unhinged meltdowns I’ve ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Dems could run Jesus Christ himself and half the country would still reject him

I mean, that is undeniably true, but we've known that for a lot longer than two days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

I get the anger from dems against those who didn't vote but honestly that's more on the democratic party for not putting forward a candidate that earned those votes than anything else. Neither candidate is "entitled" to votes, just because the other candidate is abhorrent. I do think things will get considerably worse now and that'll hopefully teach those who didn't vote that yes that can happen and they should vote but the decision not to isn't on the electorate, it's the party that felt like they deserved votes they didn't earn.