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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Here’s what I think is going to happen:

  • someone’s going to bring a case to the SC that results in Obergefell v. Hodges getting overturned. That’s the one that legalized same-sex marriage nationally.
  • this will be used as a test case to force the CA government to comply with something that openly conflicts with and violates the CA constitution.
  • CA will be legally forced to comply.
  • any civil disobedience or refusal from state officials spur more lawsuits to either strong arm or even straight up politically imprison CA state officials as punishment
  • CA maybe tries to secede

Maybe that’s how CW2 starts, idk.

Tbh, this could also be done in the context of abortion rights with the numerous states that have passed that, but I think whatever is going to be used as a “test case” for this is going to involve CA, because I’m kinda convinced at this point that Trump and the conservative sphere want to try to make an example of CA to attempt to scare everyone else into line. Who knows. They see CA as a threat, because as a state, it has the 5th largest economy in the world when compared to other whole-ass countries. They want to bring CA fully under their control.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this will be used as a test case to force the CA government to comply with something that openly conflicts with and violates the CA constitution CA will be legally forced to comply.

Problem with your theory: there's nothing at a federal level saying California cant mandate that, at least not yet. They'd need to overturn OvH AND pass something federally that says it's explicitly not allowed, else California can do as it pleases

Whether other states recognize it is no longer guaranteed, though, thats the big thing it being federally legal forced

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yea. Most of the Republicans schtick is more states rights and handles things at a state level.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

But they're fucking lying! Surely you see that by now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

California will flat out tell them to fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

And then Trump will use the insurrection act to (inappropriately and illegally) deploy the army against the CA national guard, and then we have a civil war.

I don’t think you understand how much of a hard-on the far right has for dictating from the barrel of a gun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

California will say fuck you states' rights. California is a bogeyman to flyover fucksticks and southern shitstains. I worked with a guy who diligently researched everything he bought, and wouldn't buy anything that profited California business. He was the extreme end of incel gross.

I give that as an example to show how much the extreme right hate California. It doesn't matter to them that there are many pockets of conservatives there, they would like to see the entire state burn. They don't think about or care about the national economy, they just use twisted versions of economics to hurt people.

Donald Trump is an sick old man slipping into senility. He won't be running the country. The people who will be would never endanger the tax money they get from California. That may be the only silver lining to the shit cloud.

Now the test case stuff might go right ahead in order to eliminate the rights of people in the rest of the US. You could be right about that.