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[–] [email protected] 42 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (4 children)

Yes a q value of 1.53 and a goal of 10 by 2030 which is when it'll be commercially viable. Its already fantastic but they are currently working on reducing the cost of building a tokamak and increasing yields

Everyone has been naysaying to me about this for years on here but my finger is on the pulse, the Chinese are gonna do it some-controversy

[–] sp3tr4l 1 points 28 minutes ago

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202406/1314447.shtml

There's no mention of the actual achieved Q value of the HH70.

The Q value of 1.53 you are here saying was achieved by HH70 is actually from an inertial confinement system that shoots lasers at tiny pellets, at the NIF (National Ignition Facility) of Lawrence Livermoore National Labs in 2022.

https://lasers.llnl.gov/science/achieving-fusion-ignition

3.15 MJ / 2.05 MJ = 1.5365...

This was widely reported in 2022 as the first time any kind of fusion system produced more energy than it took to operate.

They've since actually exceeded this, getting 5.14 MJ from a 2.2 MJ laser shot in Feb 2024, for a Q of 2.3636...

Anyway, yes Energy Singularity is aiming for a Q of 10 or greater (and so is ITER), but it is not Energy Singularity that has achieved 1.53 Q, that's the NIF.

If you could provide a source where Energy Singularity actually says any of it's achieved Q values, I'd appreciate it.

The actual thing being reported here about the HH70 is that it achieved energy discharge, aka, it was able to start up and maintain a contained plasma field.

... It is pretty funny that fusion reactors are being funded by gacha games though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Yeah! I have been extremely excited by fusion progress lately. It's like living through the industrial revolution, but it's the fusion revolution.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

If anyone's gonna do it its China. They have the most to gain from reducing reliance on oil and gas imports, and they have the money, institutional knowledge, and manpower to do it.

I just think its funny that after all the effort expended on experimental designs over the past few decades it turns out the Tokamak is still the best one. USSR stay posthumously winning.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

i've been obsessively posting about it since this site started. china is going to dominate the world (in a good way) simply by mass producing commercial fusion reactors and selling them to every nation that wants them. and start a fusion fuel economy. it will be a net gain for everyone, unlike the fossil fuel economy.

my more crank prediction is a lot of their unmanned lunar research is part of a broad policy of looking for viable helium-3 sources.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago

My prediction is the Americans will nuke everyone out of spite rather than see a human future where capitalism has no more leverage once fusion is viable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone has been naysaying to me about this for years on here but my finger is on the pulse, the Chinese are gonna do it

Reminds me of that game where you play as a post-revolutionary government trying to reverse climate change. It lets you research fusion and says there's some percent chance of getting it done, but it's actually coded to never work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

half-earth socialism