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[–] [email protected] 176 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What's wrong with writing poetry on an aircraft carrier? I can't speak to being on an aircraft carrier, but on a submarine you are not in war mode 24/7; there's time to do ordinary things. (usually).

Let me guess: Tommy here hasn't ever served in the military, right? All he knows about it is from movies?

[–] [email protected] 104 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fascists fear free expression

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

dulce et decorum est pro patria mori

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Stop Patrick you're scaring him!!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Talked to quite a few vets. My understanding is that outside of training, the military is like 90% waiting.... I'm sorry, "assuming a holding pattern"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As the old joke has it, 99% is killing time. The rest is killing time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless you're the vessel's chef, then you're killing thyme.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say 90% but it is significant. "Hurry up and wait" is a common phrase in the military - you don't exactly have much "free time" (where you could do as you please) but you do have a lot of time wasted because you have to be at this location at 5:30 so you can wait for an evolution at 6 that doesn't actually involve you doing anything until 7:30. So you just sit around waiting to do shit but can't go anywhere else. Poetry sounds like a better way to pass the time than what I did in those situations, which was usually nap or BS with the others waiting around.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Don't forget rock toss!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Free time? On a sub? There's got to be something you're dinq on, so get hot.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Well, maybe free time doesn't happen in the first year, but I was a nuke; quals weren't all that bad from what I remember.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The chief's quarters really need you to push out those Dive quals so they can go to a 15 section rotation.