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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It actually started really ramping up in 2008-2009. Tea Party, birthers, so on. It's amazing what happens when someone who wasn't white was elected president.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It actually started with Newt and his bullshit back in '96....well, actually it started with fucking Reagan and his trickle down bullshit back in '80...then again, maybe it started when

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This is the correct answer. It's just that the crazies, racists, and terrorists in the Republican party stopped being scared to come out in public around 2008 and even more in 2016.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, Reagan proved how far racism could destroy things long before that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From an outsiders perspective if you really want a catalyst point I always look to the failure of the Union to subject the slaver capitalists of the Confederacy to Nuremberg style trials for sedition and treason.

Instead there was compromise and appeasement. The problem was swept under the rug.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a lot of truth in this. The elites at the top of the South weren't rooted out after their civil war and all of the bullshit going on in US politics today is a direct consequences of that failure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It would have existed regardless of who you got rid of. An argument can be made that fierce retribution by the North would have only further sowed anger in the South and a divide.

There's also the possibility that the chance at a productive reconstruction era likely died right at the start the minute Johnson became president.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, that shit was already bubbling over during the Revolutionary War. Remember the Three Fifths Compromise? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People forget or never learned how much this country was arguing before it even began, and has been arguing since then. People who idealize the past and think there's a period of peace where everything was superb (like those that point to the 50s) are showing privilege and ignorance of various affected groups that suffered and fought our entire history. We've never had a moment where we all got along.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We can go back further, but that's where I put my finger on the map.

Fox News was a conservative news outlet until then. Overnight they went batshit crazy.

Between them and social media, we spiraled down into where we're at now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think it was even earlier... 9/11 really broke the safety of America (and even the "western" world) and pushed so many people down the conspiracy rabbit hole. Social media amplified this fear and brought them together giving them power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My head canon is that the fixed point event in earth history is that humanity should have ended in nuclear war with the cuba crisis and the timeline has been unravelling ever since.