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They just want the legal right to kick people off public land. This doesn’t solve the underlying problem of homelessness, it will just force them into shelters against their will or worse into jail.
The real issue is that most homeless have underlying mental health problems along with drug habits to cope. Most homeless don’t want to be forced to live in shelters because the strict no drug policy. They just want to be left alone and not forced into the system.
No government program actually helps address their actual issues, it just hides them from public view and forces them to follow someone else’s rules.
The real problem is that this will be used against people who live in their cars as they will have no legal place to live. That said, I understand that there is a huge problem with people living out of RV’s dumping sewage in the street or in storm drains.
The solution is really to offer people a place to live, camp, park their cars/RV’s thats outside the city. They need to offer free mental health services along with work opportunities so those who want to be part of society can get it on their feet.
Instead, they are using the power of the law to make it illegal to he homeless.
You know we could just give them homes
It’s right there in the word
No, no don't you see. Its a complicated and nuanced issue! Its not as simple as just giving homeless people homes, how would that solve anything?
Property value
The first step in any addiction/recovery/mental health treatment program is getting someone stable housing. The root cause of homelessness, and the recent spike in it, is excessively high housing costs
This. I hate how libs and chuds hand wave homelessness as "oh it's addiction" or "oh it's because they're cRaZy" when the elephant in the room is literal housing being unaffordable.
This is just not true, most homeless people do not have mental health issues.
Most of the homeless people with drug addictions, got those addictions because they were homeless. And there are still homeless people with neither issue, obviously.
No, it's to give them houses for fucks sake. There are 25 empty houses per homeless person in this god forsaken country.
Thank you! I get so sick of repeating these same things over and over and over. Especially when people don't seem to give a shit.
This is what I don't get. The NIMBYs bitch and moan about homeless people ruining their property values or whatever tf, but then they resist every. single. thing. that would make any progress in making the "problem" manageable. That's because it's about power and division, not about property values and "clean streets." So they either need to start getting on board with a real solution to help people, or just admit it's about class war and nothing else.
They can't even stand car campers and RVs who park out of the way and mind their own business and often pay for spots. I've had cops come in the dead of night to get me to move my car off of a turn out on a two lane road in the middle of nowhere. I must have been ruining the view for...no one.
I think a significant part of it is wanting to distance themselves from homeless people. If they're all meth addicts and schizophrenics, they aren't like us. That makes you feel better about not helping, and further from being homeless yourself.
But that would be socialism. /s
Seriously though, housing is not enough. You need social services, health insurance, work, and transportation.
It is not a simple problem to solve. And all the social programs I have been systematically got a year after year by Republicans.
Please tell me how you’re going to fund all of this and convince all the Republicans in this fucking country to pay for these programs, build housing build infrastructure, give people medical healthcare, social services and whatever else they need. It’s not gonna happen.
In most cases housing is the answer. And money. Giving them money so they're not desperate. Programs that combine those two things have excellent outcomes.
It is a simple problem, but its difficult to resolve because of the political institutions and who controls them. The issue isn't just Republicans but the system itself. That's why nothing can be solved, not because the problems themselves are difficult
Yeah. Homelessness is one of the simplest social problems. The answer is just "give people a nice apartment and the money they need for food and shit." Bam. Problem solved. The hard part is finding a pit big enough for all the fascists standing in the way of this simple solution.
What? How about giving them homes?
Yeah, right now the issue is that people don’t want homeless people in the cities. So they’re making it illegal to use a public spaces. So if you were the designated certain spaces, not in the middle of the cities, that would also be a start to a solution.
No the issue is that homeless people don't have homes. Who gives a fuck about outright reactionaries and hand-wringing libs who just want them out of sight?
That's a start to concentration camps.
You might say the start of a final solution
we should just build and give homes to homeless people