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So I think we already know the outlines of the typical criticisms of Breadtube, namely that it's vaguely-leftist content that focuses on cultural critique and gives a nod to socialist theory here and there but it doesn't actually achieve anything and it's just a media-consumption demographic with no moves towards anything that resembles on the ground organising and activism. (Obviously there are a few outliers but as a rule this generally holds true.)

I dipped out of Breadtube years ago for plenty of reasons but I just posted on Lemmygrad criticising the SPD Three Arrows movement which prompted me to have a look at the Breadtuber Three Arrows and they have done exactly the same thing that Contrapoints and a lot of other large figures in this genre have done:

They build up a healthy Patreon base and then their content drops off to like a couple of videos a year, if that, while continuing to draw off a personal salary which rivals that of a full-time worker.

In the past two years Three Arrows has produced 4 videos, amounting to less than 4.5 hours of runtime all up.

That's staggering for someone who is getting over 60k a year, at the most conservative estimate.

Likewise Contrapoints claimed to be getting 20k a month and she's putting out like 1-2 videos a year. And there's plenty of other examples of this too.

Imagine what could be done if people supported their local grassroots organisations instead of paying boatloads of cash for their twice-yearly YouTube treats smh.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

yeah those common critiques don't really work as critiques of a pretty diverse array of commentators and videographers. if we take them seriously, we find that they're actually critiques of a certain attitude towards Doing Leftism Online that confuses being entertained with being radicalized. "It's the breadtuber's fault for strangling the newborn revolution in the cot!" just doesn't make sense if you look at the contours of the social terrain we're stuck in. is the idea supposed to be that, if hbomberguy started a series where he explains Capital chapter by chapter while doing bits instead of talking about star wars or whatever, then that would revitalize the revolutionary left?