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Fatah (Arabic: فتح, Fatḥ), formerly the Palestinian National Liberation Movement, is a Palestinian nationalist and social democratic political party. It is the largest faction of the confederated multi-party Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the second-largest party in the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC). Mahmoud Abbas, the President of the Palestinian Authority, is the chairman of Fatah.

Fatah is generally considered to have had a strong involvement in revolutionary struggle in the past and has maintained a number of militant groups. Fatah had been closely identified with the leadership of its founder and chairman, Yasser Arafat, until his death in 2004, when Farouk Kaddoumi constitutionally succeeded him to the position of Fatah Chairman and continued in the position until 2009, when Abbas was elected chairman. Since Arafat's death, factionalism within the ideologically diverse movement has become more apparent.

In the 2006 election for the PLC, the party lost its majority in the PLC to Hamas. The Hamas legislative victory led to a conflict between Fatah and Hamas, with Fatah retaining control of the Palestinian National Authority in the West Bank through its president. Fatah is also active in the control of Palestinian refugee camps.

Founding

The core group of Fatah was most likely founded in Kuwait in autumn 1957 by five or six Palestinians, among them Yasir Arafat and Khalil al-Wazir. This core group agreed on the movement's name, drafted its manifesto, and planned its “Revolutionary Organizational Structure.”

The name Fatah, the Arabic acronym in reverse for Harakat al-tahrir al-watani al-Filastini (The Palestinian National Liberation Movement), came to attention in the first issue of the magazine Filastinuna–nida' al-hayat (Our Palestine–The Call of Life), in Beirut in October 1959, and cells of the group began to be formed in the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia.

As a movement of refugees, Fatah needed support from the Arab world, which it initially found in Algeria starting in 1962, then in Syria starting from 1963. Relying on this support, the movement leadership began preparations to set up a clandestine military wing named al-ʿAsifa (storm).

In July 1968, during its second conference held in the Syrian town of Zabadani (the first conference took place in Damascus in Summer 1964), Fatah finalized its organizational structure. Its composition was based on two decision-making committees that constituted its leadership: the Central Committee, which included ten members who represented the movement's senior leadership, and the broader Revolutionary Council, considered an intermediary body between the Central Committee and the party's general membership.

Guiding Principles

Fatah was the first national liberation movement since 1948 to be started by Palestinians themselves and that brought together Palestinian activists from different ideological and intellectual backgrounds. It called on all politically active Palestinians to abandon their party affiliations and to be united under its banner as a movement to “organize a vanguard that would rise above factionalism, whims and leanings to include the entire people.”

The movement's leadership saw armed struggle as its primary means of liberating Palestine. It modeled itself after the revolutionary struggles in Algeria, Cuba, and Vietnam.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Every so often, when someone criticizes astrology online, I see responses implying that that person is just ruining people's fun, sometimes implying that they're sexist (in the sense that astrology is feminine-coded and perhaps the person doesn't show as much contempt for similarly-nonsensical masculine-coded hobbies.)

I do think astrology is silly, if I'm being honest, but at the same time, I want to understand what the appeal is. My experience of it tends to boil down to horoscopes and trying to understand people's personalities/destinies in terms of their star signs. Which, to me, seems inherently silly, and don't think there's any good reason to believe that the stars have such a direct effect on people's personal lives.

There are some supernatural/"woo woo" beliefs I can at least understand the appeal of in an aesthetic way or even find amusing from a non-supernatural way. For example, tarot cards can have neat designs, and even if you don't literally believe that tarot readings tell you about the future, it seems plausible that a tarot reading could give a person some random input that helps them reflect on their life in a useful way. So I can understand why people like tarot cards.

But I'm not seeing this with astrology. What do you even DO in astrology, other than attach arbitrary labels to people and then get attached to those labels? Like, I'm apparently a Capricorn, but what does that do for me? I can't change my birthdate, so I'm stuck being a Capricorn forever -- it's a very static system. What benefit do I even get from identifying myself as a Capricorn? The usual claim seems to be that it determines my personality or destiny, which (1) seems pretty obviously untrue, and (b) again, just makes this sound very static and not particularly useful.

I'm not just ranting for the sake of being edgy, and I really do want to understand what the appeal is, because I literally do not understand it. Does anyone have a better idea of why astrology is popular?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The most destructive and least criticized form of astrology is the MBTI

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

That's one of my red-lines with people. I can tolerate astrology and tarot and the other esoteric stuff, that's fine. But the psuedo-science phrenology stuff wigs me out and I want nothing to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

At least my MBTI result has some causal relation to my own behaviour. I can understand the appeal of MBTI in the same way I can understand the appeal of "Which Disney Princess are you?" quizzes. Astrology doesn't have that: you're born a Capricorn, you're stuck being a Capricorn forever, and it has no meaningful causal relationship with anything in your life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

MBTI was created by an incredibly racist and eugenicist fiction writer and her mother, both with zero pschoanalytical experience. The original version was created specifically for American women entering the workforce after WW2 to assign them personalities to better integrate them into the workplace. They tried to sell MTBI as legitimate to psychologists but when they were rightfully turned away, they tweaked it and sold it to companies which used it to enforce favorable work personalities.

MTBI is just capitalist astrology.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm aware of the history of MBTI as well. How does this interact with anything I've said?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are shitting on astrology in the exact same post that you're giving validity to MBTI. I thought a leftist would know better than to give even minor approval to it so I assumed that you didn't understand the history of it. The fact that you do understand it and decided to elevate anyway is sus

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think MBTI is invalid because of it's history (if I did that, I'd have to be opposed to EVERYTHING that has something bad in its history). I think it's invalid for other reasons that I've discussed in other comments. I don't think being a leftist means I have to be imprecise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't think MBTI is invalid because of it's history

A mystery novel writer that writes a book about a southern family self-destructing at the idea that they might contain a single drop of non-white blood goes to make a personality test that's consistently rejected as pseudoscience by scientists for 80 years. Do we really need more than that to invalidate it?

Putting aside the much longer and complex discussion that all science can be shaped by racism, anything that specifically involves psychology or sociology absolutely can and must be examined and invalidated for racist (or homophobic, transphobic, etc) history or we are just reinforcing white supremacy.

(if I did that, I'd have to be opposed to EVERYTHING that has something bad in its history)

Oooor you could examine everything independently and make decisions on a case-to-case basis? No need to fall back on fallacies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Thinking about this further, I do want to acknowledge that I've failed to consider the element of power. Astrology is incorrect, but there's not really a system of power that's using astrology to oppress people, whereas there IS an infrastructure for using MBTI to oppress people.

I'm sorry to have spent so much effort nitpicking about this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But honestly, "I think you're dismissing MBTI for mostly correct but imperfect reasons, whereas my reasons for dismissing it are better reasons" is not a hill that strikes me as worth dying on, so I'm going to tap out here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Putting aside the much longer and complex discussion that all science can be shaped by racism, anything that specifically involves psychology or sociology absolutely can and must be examined and invalidated for racist (or homophobic, transphobic, etc) history or we are just reinforcing white supremacy.

Sure, but that's not the same thing as saying "This person said something racist, therefore we don't need any other evidence to refute anything else they've ever said". (The phrase "critical support" exists for a reason -- sometimes people who are wrong about one thing are right about another). You mentioned that MBTI has been dismissed as pseudoscience by scientists for 80 years. I'm pretty sure those scientists were more rigorous than just "This person wrote a racist novel, therefore their argument is invalid".

No need to fall back on fallacies.

I'm a bit confused by this. Are you saying I'm committing a fallacy (and if so, which one?) Or are you criticizing me for pointing out your fallacy ("This person was bad, therefore their theory is wrong" is just about the most textbook example of the genetic fallacy imaginable).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Someone cannot hold a white supremacist worldview where they see non-white people as subhuman and then make a test that is designed to assign immutable personalities to people that is independent from that worldview.

Also I'm confused why, after listing 3 reasons, you only focused on 1 and try to use the other reasons as weapons against it. For someone that claims to want precision, you sure don't seem to spare any for your posts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

after listing 3 reasons, you only focused on 1 and try to use the other reasons as weapons against it.

Can you clarify this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't break it out into a distinct list at this time because I was busy at the time but this statement is what I'm referring to:

A mystery novel writer that writes a book about a southern family self-destructing at the idea that they might contain a single drop of non-white blood goes to make a personality test that's consistently rejected as pseudoscience by scientists for 80 years. Do we really need more than that to invalidate it?

  1. A mystery novel writer, not a psychologist or someone with any kind of scientific background. Unless you consider the experimentation her mother did on her as a child to be a scientific background.

  2. The mention of the book, which was not mentioned to indicate "she racist cancel her" or whatever, but to point out that what's in your head shapes what you put out into the world. It's inseperable from a person. There is no death of the author in a work and there is certainly no death of the racist.

  3. Her work being rejected for 80 years. In other words, as far as scientific merit goes, this horse has been dead and beaten for a long time. There's nothing left to add to the debunk canon.

To reword my initial question: If, when examining her history, she's proven unqualified, and she's proven biased despite creating a work that's applied to all people, and her work is shown repeatedly to be lacking scientific merit, why is that not enough to invalidate her work?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks. 1 and 2 should make people suspicious of the theory, but don't necessarily invalidate it. 3, on its own, should be enough for most people to reasonably dismiss her work (assuming scientists haven't been systematically biased for the past 80 years).

I guess I'm more interested in the moving parts of WHY the theory is invalid (hearing that a million studies show a certain result is certainly strong evidence, but it's not the same thing as an explanation). In the case of astrology, knowing literally anything about what stars and planets are makes it obvious that they don't determine people's destinies. Whereas I suspect most people would be unable to give a technical answer as to why scientists don't take MBTI seriously, but DO take the Five Factors Model seriously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it doesn't, you have been grifted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I answer the questions one way, I get one result. When I answer the questions another way, I get another result. So, yes, my behaviour has some causal interaction with the result in a way that it doesn't with my star sign.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All results are nothing but comforting generalities, like a cold reading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can understand the appeal of cold readings better than I can understand the appeal of astrology.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

a newspaper horoscope isn't a cold read.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

A newspaper horoscope is a stochastic cold read

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Actually, I want to go back to this comment. It's been my experience that there are a lot of people who dismiss MBTI for the wrong reasons, usually out of incuriosity.

The reason I'm not a fan of MBTI isn't because of a vague sense of it being pseudoscientific or because I'm dismissive of the idea of people using personality tests to understand themselves. The reason I'm not a fan of MBTI is because it gets taken seriously by schools and businesses even though I'm not convinced the results have any predictive power, which is kind of important if people want to consider it a scientific test. For example, the reason Mendeleev's period table was important wasn't because he put the elements in an arbitrary order -- anyone could have done that. The periodic table was important because it revealed something meaningful about chemistry and could be used to predict the properties of elements that hadn't been discovered yet. In contrast the MBTI doesn't really predict anything, it just divides results up in an arbitrary way.

But at least in the case of MBTI, the act of answering questions about one's behaviour might be a useful exercise in introspection, even if the result is meaningless. It may be useful in the way that I described tarot cards as being useful. I don't see anything in astrology that even manages to be THAT engaging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The use in schools and businesses is what I was primarily referring to by calling it destructive.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm fairly certain it's about escapism

By believing that people are the way they are because of their moon and sun signs, and that good or bad things are happening to them because of the current alignment of stars or the mismatch of star signs with others, they are able to have uncontrollable mystical reasons to blame. And because there's nothing that can ever be done since this is just how the things way are, there is no point trying to improve or change anything

It's discarding materialism because they don't want to confront reality and acknowledge that the economic base affects the fucked up superstructure. By becoming ignorant to how the world works, they are now free to ignore the voice at the back of their heads telling them that they need to put lots of effort and energy if they want to improve things. That they may even have a responsibility or obligation to do so

It's just post-religious religion. So just like religion I fuck with the followers the same way Marx did

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

because there's nothing that can ever be done since this is just how the things way are

That's quitter talk. I propose we turn Jupiter in to a giant fusion torch-ship and take fate in to our own hands!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

people who have a violent hatred of astrology remind me of people who violently hate furries

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

as a trans person i personally don't feel amazing about a system that says the way people are born is immutable and dictates your course in life, but even i can't bring myself to have that much animus for it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Word. Most people I know who are in to astrology are just hippies who really don't have any power to hurt anyone if they wanted to. They're harmless. It's can be weird and uncomfortable when they all start talking about magic with each other though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't know if I'd describe my attitude towards astrology as "violent" (more "dismissive"). When I find out that someone sincerely believes that (say) the Earth is flat, that makes me think that they have serious deficits in their ability to examine their beliefs about the universe in any serious way, and it makes me less inclined to take other things they say seriously. I don't necessarily hate them, but I do pity them and I'm not inclined to form a deep friendship with someone like that. That's basically how I feel about astrology, from what I currently understand about it.

Whereas, there's nothing about being a furry that requires believing things that are false.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Part of it's appeal is that it is feminine coded. Just like some guys are suspiciously against it some other people see it as a source of feminine wisdom and enjoy it. How many sources of feminine wisdom are there? You don't got alot of options.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

a source of feminine wisdom

i don't understand what those words mean in that order, but the axial tilt of the earth in the time since ancient babylon means that everybody's birth-month horoscope from that tradition has become misaligned. that doesn't sound like a very wise system to me or to women like rebecca watson.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say a source of knowledge. At least for most people today it provides a way to organize your thoughts. A feeling of connection to something greater. It might feel comforting to like your life is less chaotic if you fel there is some pattern you can learn. It is cool to think about the stars and that maybe your are a part of the universe like that. Or maybe it let's you feel kinship with the women that came before you. For any person it would be hard to guess which particular emotions it provides. However they are all more adaptive to dealing with alienation under caoitlaism that raw empiricism. As Marxists how often does simply being right improve our lives? Not that often really. Religions, or superstitions, are the opiate of the masses. Opiates are medicine that makes things hurt less. They are are useful tools even if they don't fix anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

painkillers are supposed to give you relief while you heal. endless superstition doesn't do that, and if the downtrodden accept our lot in life because of some universal pattern or whatever are we more or less likely to actually do anything about the problem?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How many problems in our lives has Marxism solved? We are people that need to understand the world. Some people just need to get by for those cases religious ideals are documented to improve quality of life. If nothing is going to make your life better being delusionally optimistic isn't gonna hurt anything. It might give you a punchers chance at improving things and make you feel better the entire time you are losing. Which is better than what being right would offer most people throughout most of history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We are people that need to understand the world.

believing false realities isn't understanding the world.

being delusionally optimistic isn't gonna hurt anything.

that's just not true at all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I ment you and I. For some people thst simply isn't ad emotionally salient.

You are infact wrong. Pick any random miserable figure though history. Subject of some empire or another. Doesn't matter who. Now imagine if they new Quantum chromodynamics. Does that improve their lives? Not in the slightest. Instead teach them that all their suffering is meaningless and they will see their love ones again after they die. Their lives are significantly better.

We don't have to like it. We do have to accept that is a true fact if we wanna do better though. That informs the turn of the century atheist movement. Knowing what do we about religion being the opiate of the masses it is obvious that the atheist wave could only have attracted people with enough comfort and privilage so that they don't need opiates to get by. Which means the movement could only have been of a liberal nature which precluded any useful progress coming out of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Instead teach them that all their suffering is meaningless and they will see their love ones again after they die. Their lives are significantly better.

we have a fundamental disagreement about the premise of this, and even if i grant it i don't think the conclusion is true.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

As someone who reads tarot I am 95% sure astrology is just grift.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Many people want to be told who they are, they long for something external to give them a sense of identity. Astrology can do that for you. It gives you a label and a group of people "like you", and if you buy into it it can tell you why you are the way you are. Or rather, yknow, it can give you a false answer but it doesn't really matter.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I think most people just read the horoscopes, but from what I understand there are a bunch of different systems for doing complex divinations based on the position of the visible planets, the seasons, and who knows what else. So if folks really want to get deep in to it there's a bunch of esoteric systems to investigate. Some of them are medieval, some have roots way back in the ancient world.

The one I think is really funny is all the "Mercurcy is in gatorade" stuff. Retrograde motion was proven to be an illusion created by the relative motion of the Earth and the other planets centuries ago but I guess that just doesn't matter. Sometimes I tease astrology people of not accounting for the motion of all the planetoids in the Oort cloud, and that it's throwing off their calculations. It's just hard to really treat seriously, even if you're trying to be interested and kind about it, when you know there are planets that aren't visible to the naked eye, that Jupiter has like a gazillion moons, that there are a punch of dwarf planets and planetoids zipping around. If the Astrologers were right and they could divine things from the positions of the planets and stars they'd need a bunch of telescope arrays and some big computers to crunch the movements of the thousands and thousands of objects flying around the Sol system.

I often quip that I'm taking donations to build a giant rocket to crash Mercury in to the sun so the little fucker never goes retrograde again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get this feeling that you can get a useful piece of information about someone by how they react to astrology. If they need to disprove it and tear it to shreds then they might be annoying when you tell them about other woowoo that you believe. It's the same way you ask your partner if they'd love you if you were a worm.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

I think it is important to believe true things instead of false things, and if I sincerely believed something that was clearly false, I'd hope that the people who care about me would respect me enough to say something, and not be condescending to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

My tea reading cup uses astrological symbols. It's a fun tradition I practice every Halloween. I used to fuck with a bit more of magick, but even I just see Horoscopes as a fun little diversion. Then again, that's exactly what a Virgo would say, isn't it.