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THEY ENJOY BEING ASSHOLES. why is this so hard to understand?
It's not.
The assholes want to be praised for their reasonable nonpolitical "ironic" gestures against those (ableist slurs here) that made the mistake of caring too much.
Caring that much about the ideal of not caring is pretty common among assholes.
Pretty sure unless they are hyper online weirdos they are completely unaware of how angry you are at them. They are like having business dinners and eating steaks and burgers and shit and have kids probably. They probably watch sports.
You seem particularly worked up about some specific internet people in this thread, right now. If I am not mistaken you are significantly emotionally invested in this one issue at the moment and you do seem angry about it for unclear defensive reasons.
Besides, where does rolling coal work into your "le steak and le whiskey taste good stop talking about it STOP TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW" thesis?
No yall are. Stop projecting. I’m just trying to let you know your perspective is being skewed by being hyper online.
You're signaling your virtue of not caring, even now, and are apparently signaling your virtue of not caring about others "fucking loving steak" over and over again in this thread. You want other people here to stop caring because they're caring more than you're permitting them to care.
Nope. Wrong. I care. I also think steak tastes good. Those are not mutually exclusive positions actually.
It sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself that steak does not taste good and anyone who says it does must be lying so that you don’t get tempted by it. Whatever you need to do for yourself is fine, but to publicly say you think such obviously false things just makes your arguments (which i agree with, i used to be vegan for years) look worse.
But anyway, not really worth continuing this conversation if you can’t see how it looks like you are just trying to convince yourself that beef tastes bad by saying that there is no way anyone actually thinks it tastes good and that they are just eating it to virtue signal anti-wokeness. People ate meat before wokeness was a thing, people around the world east it because they like it and it tastes good to most people. Start there.
So the difference between you and chuds on this issue is that you do care about the criticism and are being very online about what you perceive as everyone else being very online and are replying in this thread like a machine gun and flailing at everyone else for being "too online" because they're not nodding sagely at your "le steak is delicious DONT LOOK INTO IT STOP RIGHT NOW" posting.
Yup. That’s why I’m about to log off.
Good. Perform that virtue.
See you next reply!
You seem to have some serious emotional investment in this specific issue if you've been flinging insults at me three times over in the span of a few minutes.
nah I just scrolled down the thread and replied to people who annoyed me
Meanwhile, "u r very online u looser" to anyone who spoke up against carnism in any form.
I really thought better of you.
god you guys turn into redditors when you get poked about this bullshit
And what are you doing besides name calling and calling people losers because they're arbitrarily too online if you disagree with them on some specific consumer product you have emotional investment in?
I was being an asshole for no reason trying to say not to be an asshole, so yeah sorry
Rolling coal is being an asshole on purpose, and i would bet the same percentage of idiots do that as think they are owning the libs by eating steak every day. Less than 1%. The stat is about the 12% who eat most of the beef, most of those people are not trying to do anything performative or political.
The internet is skewing your understanding of the prevalence of these things, and it’s embarrassing to see people on here create straw men arguments about all the beef eating being performative, thinking they’re making a great dunk when they’re just totally wrong.
Exactly the point I was getting at.
And you're the enlightened detached very offline authority of who is too online and who is not, and you apparently draw that boundary with "le steak is le delicious STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW" rage posting.
Talk about it all you want. But creating straw men to get mad about is pretty embarrassing, that’s all.
What liberal brainworm? Specify.
Is this some leftover fallout from that vegan struggle session that you went into with both fists swinging?
I really don't know many other ways to go in, if I got strong enough pushback in a way that made sense i would have stopped. My pride doesn't exist and I will give ground on any belief if it seems logical and humanistic.
Killing animals and eating them is logically unnecessary and even the slaughter of them does lasting psychological harm to human beings in the slaughterhouses alone, if you don't want to speak of the pain and suffering and distress of the animals themselves. That should be enough.
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im going to need to think about this a little, thanks for your patience.