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I admit Im not invested in it as an Ideological issue, although im beginning to see that it is. I'm not doing well right now, at all.
I understand, though it's unavoidable for it to be an ideological issue now.
Even now, I am one of those people that still believes less meat consumption is still a start and that outright complete abolition, while ideal, isn't likely to win over an already fickle general population that's spent generations normalizing the highest meat consumption rates in the world, unprecedentedly. The fact that carnist ideology is so widespread and aggressively entrenched makes an all-or-nothing approach only escalate the defensive reaction toward criticism. It's rough.
Its very true, with meat consumption it become some sort of weird treats based nationalism. Although i'd argue its mostly part of the ruling class or imperial core, and the non beneficiary defenders are the usual outcast exceptions.
thats more or less my position, I see veganism as an ultimate goal, I just have a hard time with the getting there part. To be fairly honest my reaction has mostly been one of surprise, I have never seen any space online or off with any actual vegans. Like any with any ideology or understanding behind them. I've never seen the whole thing as something deserving of a split, just a means to an end, that being a healthy and happy society. If that makes sense.