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From what I've seen from Yudkowsky, what stands out to me is his ignorance and lack of curiosity about how anything actually works.
If God is our way to explain questions we have no answer to, then you can truly find God in any machine as long as you maintain your own ignorance, as long as you choose not to lift the curtain. You can make claims that chickens have no sentience or that ChatGPT does, you can make claims that humans are meat computers as long as you don't actually care about the true inner workings of anything, as long as you don't interrogate what any of that actually means.
Yudkowsky's beliefs truly sound like faith, pure religious faith. The less you know, the more you can believe.
He's a self-described "autodidact" that claims that actual academics and for that matter experts in actual AI-related research fields are inferior to his autodidactical genius because they don't take him seriously.
Crude reductionism is an easy default take for someone too incurious and arrogant to even consider that something might be too complex for current understanding to fully grasp.
He runs a cult, period. It has all the traits of a cult, from a chosen elect to the damned outsiders to the prophecies of salvation and doom and of course sex predator antics.