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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

President Biden said he had “no confidence” in the claims by Palestinians about the number of civilians who have been killed in Gaza during the last two weeks. The Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza said more than 6,500 people have been killed by Israeli airstrikes since Oct. 7, a number which could not be independently verified.

“I have no notion that Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” Biden said. “I’m sure innocents have been killed. And that’s the price of waging a war.” He added, “I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/25/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news/4cbfd597-2e43-5a81-b7da-496479c309aa?smid=url-share

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m sure innocents have been killed. And that’s the price of waging a war.”

Gonna use this when anyone complains about Hamas

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I deeply despise Genocide Joe.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope he dies screaming, scared & confused at being surrounded by faces he no longer recognizes

Then i hope his belief in catholicism is proven true by the fact he gets sent straight to hell for being an irredeemable monster

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the number of bombs that have been dropped on such a small, densely-populated area 6500 seems implausibly low. Do airstrikes even actually work?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Presumably there's a bunch of people missing/trapped under rubble that aren't getting reported because there's no confirmation...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah when all the dust settles we will find out the death toll is many times higher than estimated

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and of course no numbers so far have had anything to say about the health, nutrition, or sanitation crises

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only reason western media and the Israelis were even listing actual specific death figures for Palestinians is so they could get off on having a good “ratio” again - since they got so embarrassed by Al-Aqsa flood. They have a constant need to remind Palestinians they are worth less than an Israeli, they make sure to kill 8 innocent Palestinian kids for every Israeli settler killed. An eye for 8 eyes.

Now that they have re-established the proper balance of K:D ratio they will hide the Palestinian deaths

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Genocide Joe literally covering for a genocide Jesus Christ

What exactly do you think happens when you drop 12000 tons of bombs in an urban environment?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

oh boy we're already doing genocide denial

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh great this is going to be the new Zionist bullshitting defense. We can’t know how many Palestinians die, keep it at an eternally nebulous amount that doesn’t really increase

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Can anyone even count that high?" - every zionist on Twitter and reddit-logo inside a month.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

this really makes my brain boil over. the past two weeks i have been crying on and off, haunted by images of dead and dying palestinian children and this genocidal monster clearly doesn't give a flying fuck. he probably couldn't even bare witness, as he most likely can't even hold a phone or use a computer because of age-related weakness and dystaxia. he is probably just spitting out whatever wormtongue blinken or netanyahoo is shouting into his ear. everything that comes out of his mouth is whatever confabulation or figment that struggles to cohere into a persistent memory

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Irredeemable country led by a monster

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Here's the thing Jack - Biden's trust and confidence ratings are in the shitter so who is going to believe Bidet?