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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

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https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hasan dared to expose me to like 5 minutes of MSNBC coverage and it made me so viscerally angry. "Hamas has no credibility whatsoever" says this anti-cracker-aktion ass piece of shit who will later repeat IDF claims uncritically fuck you. Mainstream media are complicit in genocide and should be treated as such.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've noticed the wrong, pretty shitty liberal take is "oh Hamas doesn't represent the Palestinians, the people haven't voted since 2006, it's not their fault what Hamas is doing" or whatever

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mixed feelings on that. I think conflating all Palestinians with Hamas is exactly what Israel wants in the public concious because to them Hamas = terrorist = should die. Just like Israel actually WANTS all Jews conflated with Israel, which is of course antisemetic. There's also the fact that supporting Hamas was part of Bibi's strategy.

But yeah like. Hamas does legitimatly represent the people of Gaza (at least) and has popular support there according to polls more recent than 2006.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's a bad take because it's an attempt to go "Hamas is a terrorist group and they did what terrorists do, the Palestinian people were fine with how things were before and just want to live a peaceful life" whereas Hamas has broad support precisely because they are the only ones fighting back.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Broadly speaking I agree with that I think. Especially rejecting the idea that Palestinians want the status quo or anything like that. I just think conflating a people with their government is always dangerous and I'm warry that it serves Israel's goals if you're not careful about it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Israel has done a bang up job of conflating all jewish people with Israel. Especially amongst Western jews.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah I mean thats literally what I said. They want it that way. They also love international antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

The only American news I can tolerate on this is the APs updates on their site. I haven't even attempted to see what cnn or MSNBC is saying. I assume it's completely fucked.