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  • Hamas-run government says Israeli strikes on Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza killed at least 195 Palestinians, with concerns raised by the UN that these could constitute war crimes.
  • Evacuation of foreign nationals from Gaza is underway, with 320 already crossed into Egypt; about 7,500 are expected to leave within two weeks.
  • The strikes targeted Hamas military leaders and infrastructure, with Israel’s campaign responding to Hamas' cross-border attacks from Oct. 7.
  • U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is set to visit Israel and Jordan to discuss the conflict and the need to minimize civilian casualties.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't see the benefit to slow rolling the release of foreign nationals in Gaza. Why is it going to take 2 weeks?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Egypt really REALLY doesn't want refugees. They are the biggest hurdle. They are screening everyone ahead of time to ensure they have a place to go.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Reasonable answer: Because they need to ensure that everyone has a place to go and won't cause an international incident when the border (so Egypt) devices that they don't have a valid passport or are going to become a homeless person or whatever. Also make sure there aren't any known terrorists sneaking out.

Real answer: So that the IDF can murder more of them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I doubt the real answer is to murder foreigners, someone is benefiting from a slow releases of foreigners.... not sure who gets the most negotiation leverage here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Israel has been the biggest hurdle to getting anyone out or anything in and I wouldn't be surprised if they are the reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why would Egypt want the IDF to murder more civilians?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Partially because Egypt and Israel have increasingly become something approximating allies. So same logic as the US

But also? The majority of "arab" nations dislike Palestine on the best of days. So the usual bigotry against any immigrants amped up a few notches. Think Mexicans in the US or the Polish in the EU (and a big driving factor for brexit in the UK).

But there is also the active fear of Hamas led Palestinians becoming terror cells or trying to stage a coup. Egypt in particular has been fighting for years against, allegedly Hamas led, Islamic terrorists for years in the Sinai.

Similar to the (allegedly?) Iranian backed terror groups in Yemen.

So yeah. There will obviously be some light condemnation. But nobody is going to do anything about the IDF killing Palestinians. Because Israel becoming even more of a pariah an the inevitable long term destabilization from pocket groups for decades to come is the real goal of this. Having fewer Palestinian refugees is just a "bonus".