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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I can't wait for ghoul libs to try to spin this.

It's official: Israel has now killed more civilians in Gaza in 30 days than Russia has in its entire war in Ukraine, which began over 600 days ago.

Nitter

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They will spin this by ignoring it

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Easy: "Russia wanted to and would have done the same, if not for the miserable state of their military and the valiant resistance of the UAF"

smuglord

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

That might help them villainize Russia, but responding at all also spreads this fact at a te when they're already steuggling with public opinion about I/P conflict

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

yeah whenever it's inconvenient they literally won't cover it or mention it so quickly and offhandedly that no one pays it any mind

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Have you considered

Orange man bad?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Geopolitics is a pragmatic decision space for states.

I'm stealing "pragmatic decision space" for my jokes. It's fantastic. I really like how they must think the sentence sounds smart but it doesn't actually say anything. It's sort of like context farm word salad or chatbot text. I wonder if they came up with that gem by themselves or they stole it from their favorite pundit.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My response would be exactly what Nelson Mandela said when faced with a similar response: "Anybody who changes his principles depending on whom he is dealing with, that is not a man who can lead a nation"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I thought of "changes their principles depending on who they are dealing with" - this person popped into my head...

And if Biden kicks the bucket soon - she'll become president. I can't even begin to imagine what she'd do about the Gaza war.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean Blinken is basically the president right now with Biden. It's like Cheney and Bush Jr all over again. I don't know how Kamala Harris would fit in that dynamic. She'd obviously want to make the decisions, and is not on the verge of dying. So Blinken and Nuland would probably be out, and some ghouls with almost identical foreign policy would replace them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I can't even begin to imagine what she'd do about the Gaza war.

Pop pills and give the ok for whatever the Pentagon wants to do.

So not much different than what Biden is doing, just different pills.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT, write an "akkually"-comment about SA-Palestine diplomatic relation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

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It's somehow comforting to know that if I really want to find out what the most delusional and/or sociopathic takes on the Internet are on a particular topic, 4chan is no longer the only option available.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Same way they reacted when the U.S. surpassed China in COVID deaths, I expect.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone do the proportional math to calculate how many Russian invasions Israel committed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just with Google top result population/casualties math a proportional number of deaths in Gaza to Ukrainian civilian casualties would be 929, so we're at like 10.7 Russian invasions in Gaza. Adjusted by time, Israel is killing 215 times the number of invaded people per capita per day, since they did this in 1/20th of the time.