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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's as much a function of human evolution as it is of how our society functions. And hell, isn't that dependent on human evolution too?

We evolved to survive, not to run a society. We've done pretty well overall despite that problem, but the wheels are coming off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Humans have evolved to be social cooperative creatures not greedy selfish hoarders, and it is only in the last few thousand years, a blip in human history, that these systems developed by, and that only reward, greed and selfishness, have been around.

Don't let these systems and the people who benefit from them (and those who have been propagandised to believe they benefit from it but really don't) fool you in to thinking any of this is natural.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I've been learning about human history, your first paragraph does seem to be the case. However, we didn't have near the same numbers then as we do now. It's the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

It’s the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.

Assuming you mean scarcity, you've almost hit a big nail on the head there - capitalism deliberately creates artificial scarcity, and the belief that it is inevitable (and in a way, it is, when living under a system that aims for infinite growth in a finite world with finite resources), however post-scarcity is already entirely possible today, especially with the growth of automation, if only the worlds resources were managed and distributed with society's well being in mind, instead of profit.

Convincing those of us the greedy and selfish exploit, who are trapped in their system with no way out, that we are in fact the greedy and selfish ones (for wanting our basic needs met, not private jets and mega yachts) who are to blame for all of our, and humanity's, ills, not them, who are literally raking in and hoarding all of the world's resources while being the biggest contributors to its destruction, is one of capitalism's nastiest and most effective lies, because in the world they've created, where greed and selfishness are not only rewarded, but necessary, it's almost impossible to prove wrong.

But it is wrong, and completely unnatural, and a better way of life absolutely is possible, it just requires those with all the power and money to not hold all the power and money anymore, and they'd rather destroy the planet and the rest of us with it, than do that, which means it's up to us to make that choice for them, or go down with them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, you're absolutely right. 😅 I just didn't delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Haha, I figured autocorrect, though you're good whatever the reason, I clearly understood what you meant.
And sorry it came out as a bit of a rant, it's hard to help it, but I'm glad it's making some sense to you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

From what I've been learning about human history, your first paragraph does seem to be the case. However, we didn't have near the same numbers then as we do now. It's the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.