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I'm sure Xi is beyond having his feelings hurt by Biden, but just look at Bilken's reaction lmao.

Inviting a head of state to your country to publicly insult them is unacceptable anywhere, so this is only going to further tarnish the shitty reputation of American diplomacy.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Can't believe I watched the whole thing, god the entire video is so... masturbatory.

  • PL-15, literally the newest A2A missile ever fielded and a significant kinematic advantage over AIM-120. Nope, can barely score two hits with a 20 missile salvo. Also always launched from max range to minimize chance to hit I guess.

  • PL-12, estimated to be equal to AIM-120C. Scored like 1 hit after a 100 something missile salvo.

  • AIM-120D, don't ever misses, downs dozens upon dozens of aircrafts while barely taking losses. "Once again proves the united states's advantage in missile technology".

  • Evasive maneuvers against modern A2A missiles: If the F-18s do it, it always works, 98% effectiveness against anything. If the flankers do it, it never works. They might as well be flying straight, would have the same results.

  • Missile salvo of 30 sea skimming cruise missile toward a carrier: All intercepted, no problem.

  • A small salvo of Harpoons, pretty much the most obsolete ship to ship missile still in service, okay the 054A made a valiant effort but can't intercept them all. Also the CIWS can do nothing against a subsonic target.

  • DF-21D. From the late 2000s and highly experimental. Not perfected until DF-17 and 26 from recent years. Functions flawlessly at max range and we only lost the carrier due to this wunderwaffe.

  • Okay we lost but we are against overwhelming odds also we intentionally placed multiple handicaps on ourselves. And we still had an exchange ratio of like 1:50.

  • Everyone in comments: OMG this simulation is so accurate! But as a navy man here we would've never had those handicaps and we would've totally wreaked havoc on their obsolete military guys.

This thing had the plot of a top gun movie but is presented like a simulation done to the last detail. Just... strange. Gives off a big "elite waffen SS against soviet human wave attacks" energy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's absolutely masturbatory, I did warn about the estimates being off. It's interesting in that it's a pretty fair estimate of how these assets might react in such a situation though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Yup. How the thing started felt pretty realistic. Not without precedent, cough Iran Air Flight 655 cough

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also the CIWS can do nothing against a subsonic target.

Is this criticizing the video or a real life assessment?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The video of course. CIWS is literally built for those. I don't think it's simulated at all in the video. But once again I think the 054A only had a single one of them? So maybe it wouldn't have mattered much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the clarification, “ CIWS is literally built for those” was where I was coming from.

Also, thanks to AlyxMS for summarizing the video