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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If they have to tell you they are Christian, they are not. If they have to tell you they are honest, they are not. If the have to tell you that they don't watch porn, they do.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no Christian stamp of approval. Your are the religion you say you are

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Calling yourself a Christian is not the same as being a Christian.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok but also if you think that being a good person is correlated with being a Christian that’s also a problem. I’m a heretical apostate to Christianity but I act more in line with the teachings of Jesus than many Christians. Does that make me more Christian than them despite me having different gods? Or is it just that they’re bad at following the rules of their religion? I think it’s the latter. I think most if not all religious traditions place some weight on and expectations around being halfway decent, and Mike Johnson is a shitty person. He’d be shitty in any religion.

I see a lot of Christians say that they should “show you’re a Christian instead of saying it”, but like how about just be a good person and I won’t infer your religion off of it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Or is it just that they’re bad at following the rules of their religion?

The problem is that this basically can't be the case, because all the rules are made up pretty much ad hoc and everyone can just justify whatever interpretation cause the holy spirit told them that was the right way, and they're more in touch with god than you, yadda yadda.

Definitions of who is and isn't a shitty person is also kind of up in the air. This guy definitely is, but the christian who's been brainwashed into believing that gay people are sinners as a matter of the rules of the universe by their god? I dunno. Plot twist, though, this guy and the brainwashed guy are the same guy. YMMV depending on whether or not you believe it's intent, or action, that specifically causes harm, though, cause lots of people can walk around thinking that and never attain positions of power like what this guy has, even if they might end up performing the same given the role.

I'm not given to thinking that all of christianity is bad or whatever, that would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater. But I've been raised in the religion, I've seen a lot of it, and there's a much, much higher proportion of what people would call "fake" christians, in proportion to the ones that are nice and accepting and whatever. I dunno if they're fake, at that point, just by sheer numbers, just by the fact that that's what exists in the common consciousness as a "christian" way more than some nice dude.