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Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Wait, just yesterday young voters didn’t like Biden? I’m beginning to think that maybe the news is all made up 🤪

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Liking Biden and voting for Biden can be two separate things.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

This is very true

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Still true, no one likes Biden. The alternative just happens to be an evil dictator.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

It's a fallacy of polling. They only had two choices here. The correct interpretation is they prefer him over Trump, but do not like him.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If we had ranked ballot this would be my vote:

  1. John Stewart
  2. A tree stump
  3. Biden
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t like Biden much either, but a tree stump is just unkind. We needed Bernie Sanders, not another TV celebrity. (I do love me some John though)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Love John, but he won't do it. He's said in multiple interviews that his place is outside the establishment generating the public will to act, which he couldn't do as a politician. I don't blame him. He seems to be more effective at getting change done than most senators or even presidents.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If Biden were to drop out there's a long list of people who really don't have the clout to galvanize a winning coalition on such short notice. The list of people who do and could win is one person long:

  1. John Stewart
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Stephen Colbert might be on that list too. And honestly, Harris would probably work for the same reasons as Biden.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Wait.. Tree Stump is running?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not made up. Just a large population.

I could write an article about how Biden is really a cat and find people on the street to provide quotes for it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying it's not literally made up, but effectively made up?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Unless it’s literary, then it’s both?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read an article earlier this week that actually explains this. They had a result that young people preferred Trump to Biden -- but when they narrowed in on likely voters, it flipped to Biden. They noted that the individuals who preferred Trump tended to not vote in 2020.

Make of this what you will. I'm not entirely sure myself how to interpret this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is funny, because I read almost the opposite. These people are just making everything up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Pft of course haha

Polling companies need to figure out a new strategy. Their current methodology isn't working. For a poll to be accurate it needs to be a simple random sample. It's tricky to do, but clearly what we have now is insufficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's a difference between voting for him and liking him. He's an awful person but the alternative is Trump, so there's not even as choice there

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden is not an awful person. He is a person who has spent a lifetime in politics and high office and has a long record to pick away at. People tend to forget that politics is the art of the possible. People who never compromise are radicals, like the Tea Party people, for example. It makes no sense to bitch about the radicals on the right and then denigrate the centrist. If you have specific criticisms, fine that's fair, but just summing Biden up as "an awful person" is both unwarranted and naive about the nature of politics.