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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every aspect of vaping is wasteful and stupid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There are plenty of people out there using equipment with replaceable and rechargable batteries and owned tanks that they refill with their own liquid

Pretty much the least wasteful version of smoking as far as I can tell

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you know how to solder new batteries and make and replace coils, one device could theoretically last almost forever. I would be curious to see what goes first after that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Probably the user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

On rebuildable vapes, where everything but the electronics are user replaceable, the electronics are the weak point. There also are seals that need replacing and some poor quality atomizers(the vape production part) need replacement from wear. Legitimate batteries(not recycled and relabeled or off-brand) can last for 200-500 charge-discharge cycles.

There are "mechanical" devices that have no electronics, but they are more risky because they create a hard short of the battery and a lack of appropriate caution can lead to catastrophic failure which may result in physical harm or property damage.

The problem is the hassle of making coils and repacking wicks. They do have replaceable wick+coil units that aren't really rebuildable, but it does cut down on waste compared to disposable units.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

See I'm struggling with this transitioning from smoking handrolled pipe tobacco filterless cigarettes to reusable box mod Vape.

One is cost, my past method I spent less than $700 a year on tobacco and paper. Now I spent $200 on a box mod and its been like $60 a month for liquid now, then lets say another $12 for coils. My costs have way more than doubled but I spent years finding a way to trim that down before.

Secondly the waste. I had no filter so the last few puffs of paper and tobacco were biodegradable. Now I have at least 3 plastic bottles a month and their lids all piling up in the recycle. Then the metal coils, housings, and cotton just get tossed every month. The tank I had leaked so I wasted a lot of juice and had to buy extra, I replaced the tank for $30, that one leaked too and I couldnt return it, so I bought a better one overpriced at $40. That coil burned while on vacation, so I begrudgingly bought a disposable one for the first time and I'm finding I can pop it open and creatively refill it, so Ill be doing that until I get home and can replace the coil. Vape shops don't take your used coils or bottles back in my area. I doubt they even get properly recycled because I cant rinse em effectively.

I miss the simplicity of smoking right now but honestly the hassle and waste just makes me look forward to when I can quit for good and put all of it behind me.